when lipo is nessesary?

[Sbradshaw]

i am wondering, i have a kart ebr with a tm mechbox. it has an upgraded pistonhead, airseal nozzel, gears, m120 spring and bearing spring guide.

now im just wondering what benifit would spending all the money on lipo be??
i am lookinf into a 11.1v lipo

[ThunderCactus]

-Faster trigger response
-More amperage and more voltage in less space
-WAY cheaper batteries

Your gun wouldn't be able to handle an 11.1v LiPo anyway, you need a lot more upgrades, a new mechbox shell, new wiring harness, and at the very least, a MOSFET switch
Keep in mind an 11.1v LiPo shoots significantly faster than a 10.8v NIMH. Your getting more amperage out of the LiPo batt, so a 7.4v 20C lipo battery will shoot as fast as a 9.6v 1600mah NIMH battery.

[Styrak]

The benefit? Having a potential bomb in your gun.

I'm not sure that's a benefit really though. If you're not REALLY good with batteries and taking care of them, stick with a NiMH.

[The Chad]

Better ROF but not as good in cold weather and life expectancy is less. IMHO.

I switched to LiPoly for my JG stubby and all it really did as far as damage was chew up the nylon piston teeth. Changed to an alloy and worked beautifully.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

-Faster trigger response
-More amperage and more voltage in less space
-WAY cheaper batteries

Your gun wouldn't be able to handle an 11.1v LiPo anyway, you need a lot more upgrades, a new mechbox shell, new wiring harness, and at the very least, a MOSFET switch
Keep in mind an 11.1v LiPo shoots significantly faster than a 10.8v NIMH. Your getting more amperage out of the LiPo batt, so a 7.4v 20C lipo battery will shoot as fast as a 9.6v 1600mah NIMH battery.

Way cheaper batteries? What are you smoking.

[Forever_kaos]

I don't see the point for a "OMG high ROF"
Unless you like wasting BBs.

I use Semi 90% of the time. Unless I have to make somebody fuck off or I feel like saying Hello, I never go into full auto.

I've never really noticed a huge difference in trigger response between an 8.4 and a 9.6 either.
Sure I can imagine there is one, but I just don't notice it.

Guess it does depend on your playing style, but I just don't see the point of a huge fast ROF.
It's cool, and fancy to say you can do it but why waste the ammo?

Unless you are really tight for space, I suggest sticking with Nimh/Nicad batteries.
Don't have to spend on much upgrades, or a quality Lipo charger/balancer / mosfet and such.

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

Way cheaper batteries? What are you smoking.

Way cheaper when you know where to get them

I bough a 11.1v 5000mAh LiPo that is the size of a 8.4v for under 50$. That is the price most airsofters pay for a 2000mAh NiCD or 3000mAh NiMh.

Airsoft labeled stuff is about 100-130% overpriced compared to the same stuff, but sold in a hobby store.

[DarkAngel]

Well, those of us who have MP5A5's for example can only fit an 8.4 mini in the handguard.
During winter games, I was going through literally 1 8.4 600mah Sanyo per midcap.

Im sick of having to tape a large batt to the handguard. Also those using the Madbull Ultimate Hop up with the tracer. Be prepared to have your gun front wired. As they will not fit through the body on armalites. Some of us cannot fit anything worthwhile in the handguards/RIS/RAS/CASV's etc so we are forced to use Lipo. Its not always about the ROF. Sometimes its about the trigger response and space issues.

While I much prefer the Nicads for simplicity, Im forced to use Lipos in at least 2 of my guns, and Im considering doing the same for my AK (ICS Bolt Mod means no battery tray)

Originally Posted by kalnaren

Way cheaper batteries? What are you smoking.

Actually, Its quite possible to get Lipos for cheaper than Nicads. It depends entirely on what kind of Nicads you need. Jbatt Nicads for P90's range easily in the 60-90$ range depending on where you get them of course. You could get small Lipos for a fraction of that cost.

[kalnaren]

Coming from the RC plane crowed, I've been told numerous times not to cheap out on LiPos. I've seen enough planes crash in a spectacular ball of fire. Cheap lipos would make me leery of them.

[DarkAngel]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

Coming from the RC plane crowed, I've been told numerous times not to cheap out on LiPos. I've seen enough planes crash in a spectacular ball of fire. Cheap lipos would make me leery of them.

You and me both. Im just getting into the whole lipo scene and seeing videos on youtube, I am a bit nervous as I dont know that much about them.

[Skruface]

Zippy lipos FTW.

[ThunderCactus]

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos

Way cheaper when you know where to get them

I bough a 11.1v 5000mAh LiPo that is the size of a 8.4v for under 50$. That is the price most airsofters pay for a 2000mAh NiCD or 3000mAh NiMh.

Airsoft labeled stuff is about 100-130% overpriced compared to the same stuff, but sold in a hobby store.

+1, I just bought 2 4900mah 11.1v LiPos for 40$ each, and the 7.4v 1600mah LiPo's I use in my M4 are 9$ each!
The custom 9.6v 1500mah NIMH packs I needed for my AN/PEQ-15 were $45, and if that wasn't bad enough those jerkoffs added a cell on after cycling the pack so one of my packs only hold like 650mah

Individual cell balancing is another HUGE perk of LiPo cells

And LiPo's REALLY aren't that dangerous. The only 3 ways your can get a LiPo to blow up in your gun is:
a) Over current draw. firstly you'd need a pack under 20C, secondly you'd need to be shooting at least 400 fps with standard gears and a bad motor. And you can prevent the cell from blowing with a 10 cent fuse
b) Wires arcing. Ever tighten your buffer tube right onto your wires and burn out your battery? I know a few people that have. Anyway this isn't an issue when you upgrade your wiring harness to actual GOOD wire.
c) Puncturing the pack. Seeing as most LiPo's are in your stock, buffer tube, or ANPEQ, this really isn't an issue. And just getting shot won't do it.

The only other big LiPo issue is over-discharge, but that and most other problems won't make the cells blow until you charge them. And there's bags you charge your lipo's in to prevent your house from burning down.

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by DarkAngel

You and me both. Im just getting into the whole lipo scene and seeing videos on youtube, I am a bit nervous as I dont know that much about them.

They are the cheap pack.

They are just the best packs for the buck.

The pack I and Thunder are talking about are Rhino, which is the high discharge selection of Zippy packs.

So far, theses packs have beaten a set of MAXAMPS in an E-Revo brushless, with an oversized NEU 17xx (the stock kit has a 15xx series)

[ThunderCactus]

My small ones are turnigy, but the large one I bought for my 249 is a Rhino

[coach]

Originally Posted by DarkAngel

Also those using the Madbull Ultimate Hop up with the tracer. Be prepared to have your gun front wired. As they will not fit through the body on armalites.

I'm not prepared to front wire mine as I don't have anywhere to put a large 8.4.

I guess I'll need to buy the MOD II grip and install a pressure plate or mod it with a simple toggle switch.

have you figured out the required voltage yet?