Two Man Recon team! safe or stupid?

Able1 · September 2nd, 2009, 16:51

Hey I was just wondering if you guys think it would be safe to send say a 2 man recon team to go deep in and find out some stuff and than report back on there positions?
would that be stupid ?

c3sk · September 2nd, 2009, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Able1

Hey I was just wondering if you guys think it would be safe to send say a 2 man recon team to go deep in and find out some stuff and than report back on there positions?
would that be stupid ?

Can they respawn?

Able1 · September 2nd, 2009, 16:54

yap, but also many a time they dont engage unless its to take out a sniper whos pinning the team down.

FOX_111 · September 2nd, 2009, 17:01

It's possible if they know what they are doing, and the commander allow them the apropriate support.

Ideally, 2 man recon teams are attached to a squad that will escord them in and out of the erea. The 2 man team will detach from the squad when near the erea of interest and conduct their recon avoiding contact with the ennemy. They should hold fire unless direcly engaged and remain hidden at all time. After conducting their recon, they should NOT engage or touch anything and return to their main squad to relay informatin.

They should only be used when a whole squad would make too much noise and would be suceptible to compromise the mission. But never send a 2 man team alone outside the wire!

Even a sniper team should insert with a whole squad as escord and should have a QRF team (Quick Reaction Force) at the ready to pull them out of shitty situation.

The hability to respawn and medics should not be a desision factor when deciding how many people are needed for a mission. Unless it's a skirmish.

Able1 · September 2nd, 2009, 17:16

interesting, Thanks for the input.

Kimbo · September 3rd, 2009, 01:43

we've run a 2 man recon team on and off for years and it works well if you are strictly doing recon and bug out if you get into contact.

Wilson · September 3rd, 2009, 02:45

We've been rocking the two man scout sniper teams recently and it has had tremendous effect.

CDN_Stalker · September 3rd, 2009, 07:56

I often go in by myself. Lol

Danke · September 3rd, 2009, 11:45

They should have a radio, and they shouldn't get shot.

Scarecrow · September 3rd, 2009, 12:37

Depends on available manpower and what tasks and tactics are being employed within the battlespace.

In Wolfpack we've used two man teams, but, depending on the mission we would choose the appropriate personnel. If observation is the primary task, then its best to pick your quietest yet most ballsy guys who are good observers and comms guys. If its harassment or interdiction, you choose your fast and aggressive guys.

Keep in mind that a two man team, while having the advantage of flexibility and ease of communications (no squad overhead), it has no depth as a 'force' so if you're looking at a force-on-force engagement, you really should bring a group that outnumbers your opponents. Never fight fair, thats for pussies...

Wilson · September 3rd, 2009, 12:58

Keep in mind that certain weapon systems and tactics act as force multipliers, such as a sniper rifle in the hands of a skilled marksman, or a crafty ambush. Though it is simple math, and if you can afford to field greater forces than your enemy then you should - but something has to be said for the group that fields less and still accomplishes their objectives. Sun Tzu was all about that.

Scarecrow · September 3rd, 2009, 15:56

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Originally Posted by Wilson

Keep in mind that certain weapon systems and tactics act as force multipliers, such as a sniper rifle in the hands of a skilled marksman, or a crafty ambush. Though it is simple math, and if you can afford to field greater forces than your enemy then you should - but something has to be said for the group that fields less and still accomplishes their objectives. Sun Tzu was all about that.

Yes and no.

This is airsoft. There is no such thing as a "squad weapon" or a 50 cal, or a Mark 3 grenade launcher. A SAW and an M4 are the same thing in airsoft. Perhaps ROF might be a factor, but moreso psychological than real. I feel when you're going up against another airsoft squad, short of having more weapons and manpower, you're pretty much guaranteed an equal footing on weapons (providing they are all functioning). Your actions can help but if you're going up against an enemy of equal capability, you better have your game on, because it will most likely come down to people moreso than superior weaponry.

Brian McIlmoyle · September 3rd, 2009, 16:00

2 guys with a clue can beat 4 that are clueless

4 guys with a clue should take 2 every time

FOX_111 · September 3rd, 2009, 16:19

Not to mention that a squad functionning together with the same objective and with a capable squad leader can win againt an overwelming force of noobs and rambos players.

Scarecrow · September 3rd, 2009, 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

2 guys with a clue can beat 4 that are clueless

4 guys with a clue should take 2 every time

Yes, but its more likely:

2 guys without a clue fighting 4 that are clueless, and

4 guys without a clue fighting 4 that are also clueless, and everyone complaining the other is cheating...

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September 2nd, 2009, 16:51	#1
Able1 Joeyaglr444 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario	Two Man Recon team! safe or stupid? Hey I was just wondering if you guys think it would be safe to send say a 2 man recon team to go deep in and find out some stuff and than report back on there positions? would that be stupid ? __________________ It's not about the guy who doesn't call his hit. It's about the pants you're wearing and the pants you're team mate is wearing, Is it real multi cam or is it Chinese repro multi cam? I don't know but in the end it's still multicam.

September 2nd, 2009, 16:54	#3
Able1 Joeyaglr444 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario	yap, but also many a time they dont engage unless its to take out a sniper whos pinning the team down. __________________ It's not about the guy who doesn't call his hit. It's about the pants you're wearing and the pants you're team mate is wearing, Is it real multi cam or is it Chinese repro multi cam? I don't know but in the end it's still multicam.

September 2nd, 2009, 17:01	#4
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	It's possible if they know what they are doing, and the commander allow them the apropriate support. Ideally, 2 man recon teams are attached to a squad that will escord them in and out of the erea. The 2 man team will detach from the squad when near the erea of interest and conduct their recon avoiding contact with the ennemy. They should hold fire unless direcly engaged and remain hidden at all time. After conducting their recon, they should NOT engage or touch anything and return to their main squad to relay informatin. They should only be used when a whole squad would make too much noise and would be suceptible to compromise the mission. But never send a 2 man team alone outside the wire! Even a sniper team should insert with a whole squad as escord and should have a QRF team (Quick Reaction Force) at the ready to pull them out of shitty situation. The hability to respawn and medics should not be a desision factor when deciding how many people are needed for a mission. Unless it's a skirmish. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

September 2nd, 2009, 17:16	#5
Able1 Joeyaglr444 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Ontario	interesting, Thanks for the input. __________________ It's not about the guy who doesn't call his hit. It's about the pants you're wearing and the pants you're team mate is wearing, Is it real multi cam or is it Chinese repro multi cam? I don't know but in the end it's still multicam.

September 3rd, 2009, 01:43	#6
Kimbo formerly pivot Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Calgary	we've run a 2 man recon team on and off for years and it works well if you are strictly doing recon and bug out if you get into contact.

September 3rd, 2009, 02:45	#7
Wilson Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ottawa, ON	We've been rocking the two man scout sniper teams recently and it has had tremendous effect. __________________ IN OMNIA PARATUS

September 3rd, 2009, 07:56	#8
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	I often go in by myself. Lol __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

September 3rd, 2009, 11:45	#9
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	They should have a radio, and they shouldn't get shot. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

September 3rd, 2009, 12:37	#10
Scarecrow A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tottenham	Depends on available manpower and what tasks and tactics are being employed within the battlespace. In Wolfpack we've used two man teams, but, depending on the mission we would choose the appropriate personnel. If observation is the primary task, then its best to pick your quietest yet most ballsy guys who are good observers and comms guys. If its harassment or interdiction, you choose your fast and aggressive guys. Keep in mind that a two man team, while having the advantage of flexibility and ease of communications (no squad overhead), it has no depth as a 'force' so if you're looking at a force-on-force engagement, you really should bring a group that outnumbers your opponents. Never fight fair, thats for pussies... __________________ LIKE us on Facebook!! Last edited by Scarecrow; September 3rd, 2009 at 12:51..

September 3rd, 2009, 12:58	#11
Wilson Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ottawa, ON	Keep in mind that certain weapon systems and tactics act as force multipliers, such as a sniper rifle in the hands of a skilled marksman, or a crafty ambush. Though it is simple math, and if you can afford to field greater forces than your enemy then you should - but something has to be said for the group that fields less and still accomplishes their objectives. Sun Tzu was all about that. __________________ IN OMNIA PARATUS Last edited by Wilson; September 3rd, 2009 at 13:01..

September 3rd, 2009, 16:00	#13
Brian McIlmoyle 8=======D Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto	basics 2 guys with a clue can beat 4 that are clueless 4 guys with a clue should take 2 every time __________________ Brian McIlmoyle TTAC3 Director CAPS Range Officer Toronto Downtown Age Verifier OPERATION WOODSMAN If the tongue could cut as the sword does, the dead would be infinite

September 3rd, 2009, 16:19	#14
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	Not to mention that a squad functionning together with the same objective and with a capable squad leader can win againt an overwelming force of noobs and rambos players. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

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