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Old August 3rd, 2009, 21:39   #1
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New BB information. A must read.

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Old August 3rd, 2009, 21:50   #2
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interesting, but in dont use BIO bbs anyway. so meh

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Old August 3rd, 2009, 21:56   #3
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Im soo confused. is P-Life controlled in Canada? It says something it contains Colbalt which is control in Canada not US, EU, or Japan.
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 22:01   #4
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I don't think many people use bio BB's, so it's not a very big issue for Canadians.
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 22:08   #5
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why do I have a feeling our friend Easy will make an appearance in this thread...
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 22:14   #6
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why do I have a feeling our friend Easy will make an appearance in this thread...
Nah, he's a Bioval employee. And also banned.
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 22:14   #7
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Nah, he's a Bioval employee. And also banned.
orly, good to know
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 22:31   #8
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When will people finally get off this "bio-im-saving-the-world" bandwagon already? Its almost as laughable as human-induced global warming
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 22:32   #9
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interesting, but in dont use BIO bbs anyway. so meh

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I would say the same too.

Bio BBs didn't really take off in Canada so that won't be a problem.
Of the games I have been to since I started a year ago I never saw a bag of Bio BBs ever being used, outdoor and indoor games, never.

The only way Bio BBs will take off in Canada is if there was some sort of restriction on using non-bio BBs. Of course that is probably not going to happen.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 01:57   #10
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non bio BB tax? O.o
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The only way Bio BBs will take off in Canada is if there was some sort of restriction on using non-bio BBs. Of course that is probably not going to happen.
Then they'd also have to look at airsoft and regulate that in some way.

....which will never happen.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 02:49   #12
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Then they'd also have to look at airsoft and regulate that in some way.

....which will never happen.
unless they legalize the black ones!!! Which I would fully support, hell I don't care to pay extra few dollars for bio bbs if I can save hundreds and thousands on my airsoft rifle
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Old August 4th, 2009, 06:53   #13
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Uh... what? I lack the time and the patience to fisk the article in its entirety, but to say that PLA (bioplastic) require an industrial composting facility to degrade is enough BS to make Monty Python looks like a stale Jerry Seinfold joke.

Poly-lactic Acid can be degraded at "normal" airsoft field. While it will take a long time for the environment (UV, water, ground acidity, bacterial, etc.) to digest it at cold temperature, as opposed to Polyethylene or other industrial plastics that will take hundreds of years to degrade and use petroleum as opposed to waste material (or food), at least PLA goes away over some time.

What the author of the article seems to not understand, is the concept of activation energy and temperature.

Also, if you have access to the G&G 2009 parts catalogue, they actually have the result to their own PLA decomposition test. They stated at a temperature of 15*C, they estimate it will take 2 years for the product to thermally decompost into virtually nothing. This is an extremely generous worst-case scenario because in reality, humidity and nutrients (on the ground) will make PLA into a really good bacteria food (since PLA is based on Lactic Acid to start with, hence sharing similar chemical structures which will allow bacteria to convert it to glucose).

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Old August 4th, 2009, 10:43   #14
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Then they'd also have to look at airsoft and regulate that in some way.

....which will never happen.
well... no, all it would take is field owners to require the use of Bio-bbs on their property.. and everyone would be scrambling to buy them
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Old August 4th, 2009, 10:44   #15
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It makes me laugh how whenever there is discussion of bio-bbs that theres always some random valiant knight in shining armor to the rescue of bio-bbs.
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