Trouble with Police

ravenOVERwater · August 11th, 2008, 23:15

I'm currently overseas..

I got a call from my family today that my apartment was searched by the police under a warrant for possessing firearms, magazine, etc.

At no point did I take the airsofts outside of the apartment.. I wasn't even in the country. And I don't share my apartment with anyone. The apartment I'm in is still under construction on the upper floors, and contractors sometimes enter the unit... however, my unit is listed as do not enter unless owner is present, so I did not worry about it. I think some contractor ignored the notice, went in while I was away, saw an airsoft, and called the cops.

Anyways, they told me that the apartment was a mess, they turned everything upside down and inside out. The statement of what happened is available, but can only be obtained in person under oath.. and I am not even in the country.

It is legal to own airsoft, right?.. because I would think that the police would know it's a toy gun after just picking it up.. not sure why they did so much. Just to confirm, the airsofts has not left my apartment, and there's no neighbours that have a view into the unit.

Thoughts & advices?

Shirley · August 11th, 2008, 23:17

You should've stored them in a protective case locked up.
Who knows what would happen..

But that really sucks..

ravenOVERwater · August 11th, 2008, 23:23

I'm not even sure they were in plain view..

No clue how the original person saw it, unless they were going through my stuff..

Karma_ · August 11th, 2008, 23:25

That is weird...

ravenOVERwater · August 11th, 2008, 23:28

Yeah, I'm confused.. my family member was asking me whether there was more information than I was giving them, but that's as much as I know.

I'm overseas for work, so I don't have the liberty to fly back and deal with this, either.

Shirley · August 11th, 2008, 23:29

So how much stuff did you lose?

ravenOVERwater · August 11th, 2008, 23:31

A KJW P14.45 and a ICS MP5A4, I think, unless they skipped one of them. But considering what a mess my apartment was, I don't think it's likely?

Karma_ · August 11th, 2008, 23:33

To answer your question though, yes it is legal to own an airsoft gun. Hopefully you're not out of country for too long so you can get this all figured out. Keep us posted. Until you know more details it'll be hard to get any advice. Couldn't someone represent you to obtain the details?

BoB · August 11th, 2008, 23:37

I would just go to the station and explain the situation in a mature matter. You may hopefully get them back.

ravenOVERwater · August 11th, 2008, 23:40

I would like to send someone, but the notice said it has to be under oath.. can I transfer my oath-rights to someone?

Not sure how this works.

I will actually not be back in the country until mid next year, working on a high profile project at the moment.

Depending on how serious this is, I might have to book some vacation time to fly back.. but this is a bad timing..

digital_blue · August 11th, 2008, 23:42

If you don't get back soon, your guns will probably get destroyed. A buddy of mine got his legally owned and registered shotgun seized while he was out of town. Luckily he arrived home in time to get it back since it was scheduled for destruction...

ShelledPants · August 11th, 2008, 23:51

Call a lawyer local to where you live in Canada, speak to them about what you can do under the current situation, explain to them exactly what you said to us.

Edited as per Lawdog's response on page 2.

Karma_ · August 11th, 2008, 23:52

I don't know much about law but could a lawyer do it?

Muffin · August 11th, 2008, 23:53

Bad timing indeed man, I would doubt that you could transfer your oath. Is it a 'swear on the Bible' sort of thing?
Have you personally spoken with the authorities down in your home town?

Azathoth · August 11th, 2008, 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenOVERwater

I would like to send someone, but the notice said it has to be under oath.. can I transfer my oath-rights to someone?

Not sure how this works.

I will actually not be back in the country until mid next year, working on a high profile project at the moment.

Depending on how serious this is, I might have to book some vacation time to fly back.. but this is a bad timing..

PM Lawdog as he will know for sure. To my knowledge a written statement with your signature faxed to the police should be sufficient. OR you can retain a lawyer to deal with the issue.

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August 11th, 2008, 23:15	#1
ravenOVERwater Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto	Trouble with Police I'm currently overseas.. I got a call from my family today that my apartment was searched by the police under a warrant for possessing firearms, magazine, etc. At no point did I take the airsofts outside of the apartment.. I wasn't even in the country. And I don't share my apartment with anyone. The apartment I'm in is still under construction on the upper floors, and contractors sometimes enter the unit... however, my unit is listed as do not enter unless owner is present, so I did not worry about it. I think some contractor ignored the notice, went in while I was away, saw an airsoft, and called the cops. Anyways, they told me that the apartment was a mess, they turned everything upside down and inside out. The statement of what happened is available, but can only be obtained in person under oath.. and I am not even in the country. It is legal to own airsoft, right?.. because I would think that the police would know it's a toy gun after just picking it up.. not sure why they did so much. Just to confirm, the airsofts has not left my apartment, and there's no neighbours that have a view into the unit. Thoughts & advices?

August 11th, 2008, 23:17	#2
Shirley A-56 aka Mr.Hitman Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, ON	You should've stored them in a protective case locked up. Who knows what would happen.. But that really sucks.. __________________ CANADIAN AIRSOFT PRACTICAL SHOOTING (CAPS) CAPS DIRECTOR # 0047 Last edited by Shirley; August 11th, 2008 at 23:20..

August 11th, 2008, 23:29	#6
Shirley A-56 aka Mr.Hitman Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, ON	So how much stuff did you lose? __________________ CANADIAN AIRSOFT PRACTICAL SHOOTING (CAPS) CAPS DIRECTOR # 0047

August 11th, 2008, 23:23	#3
ravenOVERwater Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto	I'm not even sure they were in plain view.. No clue how the original person saw it, unless they were going through my stuff..

August 11th, 2008, 23:25	#4
Karma_ Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary, AB	That is weird...

August 11th, 2008, 23:28	#5
ravenOVERwater Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto	Yeah, I'm confused.. my family member was asking me whether there was more information than I was giving them, but that's as much as I know. I'm overseas for work, so I don't have the liberty to fly back and deal with this, either.

August 11th, 2008, 23:31	#7
ravenOVERwater Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto	A KJW P14.45 and a ICS MP5A4, I think, unless they skipped one of them. But considering what a mess my apartment was, I don't think it's likely?

August 11th, 2008, 23:33	#8
Karma_ Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary, AB	To answer your question though, yes it is legal to own an airsoft gun. Hopefully you're not out of country for too long so you can get this all figured out. Keep us posted. Until you know more details it'll be hard to get any advice. Couldn't someone represent you to obtain the details?

August 11th, 2008, 23:37	#9
BoB AV Suspended due to trade dispute Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Waterloo, Ontario	I would just go to the station and explain the situation in a mature matter. You may hopefully get them back.

August 11th, 2008, 23:40	#10
ravenOVERwater Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto	I would like to send someone, but the notice said it has to be under oath.. can I transfer my oath-rights to someone? Not sure how this works. I will actually not be back in the country until mid next year, working on a high profile project at the moment. Depending on how serious this is, I might have to book some vacation time to fly back.. but this is a bad timing..

August 11th, 2008, 23:42	#11
digital_blue Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the sticks	If you don't get back soon, your guns will probably get destroyed. A buddy of mine got his legally owned and registered shotgun seized while he was out of town. Luckily he arrived home in time to get it back since it was scheduled for destruction...

August 11th, 2008, 23:51	#12
ShelledPants Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto, On	Call a lawyer local to where you live in Canada, speak to them about what you can do under the current situation, explain to them exactly what you said to us. Edited as per Lawdog's response on page 2. Last edited by ShelledPants; August 12th, 2008 at 09:30..

August 11th, 2008, 23:52	#13
Karma_ Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary, AB	I don't know much about law but could a lawyer do it?

August 11th, 2008, 23:53	#14
Muffin Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Manitoba	Bad timing indeed man, I would doubt that you could transfer your oath. Is it a 'swear on the Bible' sort of thing? Have you personally spoken with the authorities down in your home town?

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