Has Customs changed it's tune?

SBranson23 · November 9th, 2007, 05:38

Things have been different recently. Almost anything I get has been delayed and openned but no problems (though I haven't bought anything suspect)

Of interest though was my package from WGC with a grip and a flash hider.
The customs form for duty and classification labelled the contents:
"guns/air under 500fps"

Never seen that before. I've read the posts and forgive me forgetting the specifics but I know that above that constitutes a firearm...

What I really want to know is that if an item can be classified this way and be fine coming through customs, what, on that list of things in the FAQ that you can't import as a private citizen has changed, if anything?

Specifically, I would like to order another lower receiver for my PTW and possibly a barrel set. SO if clearly marked for an airgun under 500fps, what would be the issue. If it clearly cannot be used for a real firearm...
I know it's generally considered not allowable but...

I'm thinking aloud here with this one because I cannot see how this "should" be an issue though I am all too aware of how it "could" be an issue.

Any evidence, anecdotal or official....

Not trying to open a can of worms or suggest any crazy acts or logical jumps to ordering aegs and such on ones own. It's just parts and accessories.

Greylocks · November 9th, 2007, 07:40

It should not be an issue for anything airsoft, but it is. The excuses we get are: velocity and how it looks (Replica laws).

Most parts, from everything I learned, are not a problem but even then... it depends on how the person checking the package reads their policies. Springs have been seized.

Last I checked, those laws/rules have not changed. So take your own risks.
Heck, you take a risk for anything imported by yourself. I prefer to avoid the headache.

medhatboy · November 9th, 2007, 07:44

My systema mechbox and motor I just picked up yesterday had the same lable on as yours there branson. It had been opened and sat in their office for almost a week and a half before it was released. They even took the mechbox out of the blister pack box it was in to check it over.

SBranson23 · November 9th, 2007, 11:21

Yeah I realize it's a gamble and I hold my breath any time the tracking says "sent to Canada Customs for processing" . It's just odd to see a classification that makes it look like there's someone reasonable and further, some law that's reasonable.
If I keep thinking like this I'm liable to convince myself that I could order anything...

Styrak · November 9th, 2007, 11:46

Interesting, nevertheless.

Jimski · November 9th, 2007, 11:56

I ordered a bunch of stuff from UN with TNT, came through Toronto and wasn't checked nor opened.
I was surprised.

Styrak · November 9th, 2007, 12:00

Anything illegal?

NachoPuddin · November 9th, 2007, 12:08

Ordered an acog and it spent 2 days in customs, waiting for it to get here

Ghillie973 · November 9th, 2007, 12:14

Ordered a few packages in the last month, nothing was opened and didn't take longer than a day at customs. Guess I'm just having good luck for a change.

KEVORKIAN · November 9th, 2007, 12:14

Recently received a large order for my Hicapa-infatuation & package was not even opened!!! TNT...gotta love'em.

In your face CBSA...

Now what to do with the money I saved?????

Jimski · November 9th, 2007, 12:24

yes charges, they'll probably send you the invoice soon.

Styrak · November 9th, 2007, 12:30

Why do you say that?

jameskersten · November 9th, 2007, 13:03

I have ordered a few things outside canada in the last month or so. 2 times the order sat in Customs for 3 hours max and never got opened, the other times they got opened and sat in customs for 3 days. Either way I haven't had any issues, but of course I am not trying to import anything illegal.

KEVORKIAN · November 9th, 2007, 13:06

Package was never opened & the original invoice was never opened, so how can you say that I will get an invoice????

I'm just lucky, that's my guess!

Griffin · November 9th, 2007, 13:17

Yes its just the luck of the draw! for me, my Un order spent 8 days at customs and was released 12am last night. I had ordered Metal slide/outer barrel some mags etc for G19 so will see what I get ding for in charges. My last order made through Huang, a CASV had $20 tacked on to the declared 30 price.

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November 9th, 2007, 05:38	#1
SBranson23 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Victoria,B.C.	Has Customs changed it's tune? Things have been different recently. Almost anything I get has been delayed and openned but no problems (though I haven't bought anything suspect) Of interest though was my package from WGC with a grip and a flash hider. The customs form for duty and classification labelled the contents: "guns/air under 500fps" Never seen that before. I've read the posts and forgive me forgetting the specifics but I know that above that constitutes a firearm... What I really want to know is that if an item can be classified this way and be fine coming through customs, what, on that list of things in the FAQ that you can't import as a private citizen has changed, if anything? Specifically, I would like to order another lower receiver for my PTW and possibly a barrel set. SO if clearly marked for an airgun under 500fps, what would be the issue. If it clearly cannot be used for a real firearm... I know it's generally considered not allowable but... I'm thinking aloud here with this one because I cannot see how this "should" be an issue though I am all too aware of how it "could" be an issue. Any evidence, anecdotal or official.... Not trying to open a can of worms or suggest any crazy acts or logical jumps to ordering aegs and such on ones own. It's just parts and accessories.

November 9th, 2007, 07:44	#3
medhatboy formerly Swatt Five-Six Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta	My systema mechbox and motor I just picked up yesterday had the same lable on as yours there branson. It had been opened and sat in their office for almost a week and a half before it was released. They even took the mechbox out of the blister pack box it was in to check it over. __________________ Medicine Hat Airsoft - Home of the Cypress County Tactical Airsoft Team

November 9th, 2007, 11:46	#5
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Interesting, nevertheless. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

November 9th, 2007, 07:40	#2
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	It should not be an issue for anything airsoft, but it is. The excuses we get are: velocity and how it looks (Replica laws). Most parts, from everything I learned, are not a problem but even then... it depends on how the person checking the package reads their policies. Springs have been seized. Last I checked, those laws/rules have not changed. So take your own risks. Heck, you take a risk for anything imported by yourself. I prefer to avoid the headache.

November 9th, 2007, 11:21	#4
SBranson23 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Victoria,B.C.	Yeah I realize it's a gamble and I hold my breath any time the tracking says "sent to Canada Customs for processing" . It's just odd to see a classification that makes it look like there's someone reasonable and further, some law that's reasonable. If I keep thinking like this I'm liable to convince myself that I could order anything...

November 9th, 2007, 11:56	#6
Jimski Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Montreal	I ordered a bunch of stuff from UN with TNT, came through Toronto and wasn't checked nor opened. I was surprised. __________________

November 9th, 2007, 12:00	#7
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Anything illegal? __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

November 9th, 2007, 12:08	#8
NachoPuddin Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lethbridge,AB	Ordered an acog and it spent 2 days in customs, waiting for it to get here __________________ The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."-Albert Einstein

November 9th, 2007, 12:14	#9
Ghillie973 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Petawawa	Ordered a few packages in the last month, nothing was opened and didn't take longer than a day at customs. Guess I'm just having good luck for a change. __________________ Age Rep for Petawawa Area

November 9th, 2007, 12:14	#10
KEVORKIAN Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manitoba	No chartges... Recently received a large order for my Hicapa-infatuation & package was not even opened!!! TNT...gotta love'em. In your face CBSA... Now what to do with the money I saved????? __________________ Kevorkian I SUPPORT THE USE OF SILICA BB BASTARDS!

November 9th, 2007, 12:24	#11
Jimski Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Montreal	yes charges, they'll probably send you the invoice soon. __________________

November 9th, 2007, 12:30	#12
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Why do you say that? __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

November 9th, 2007, 13:03	#13
jameskersten Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Victoria	I have ordered a few things outside canada in the last month or so. 2 times the order sat in Customs for 3 hours max and never got opened, the other times they got opened and sat in customs for 3 days. Either way I haven't had any issues, but of course I am not trying to import anything illegal. __________________ South Island Rangers Airsoft Club- President Victoria Area Age Verifier

November 9th, 2007, 13:06	#14
KEVORKIAN Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manitoba	Package was never opened & the original invoice was never opened, so how can you say that I will get an invoice???? I'm just lucky, that's my guess! __________________ Kevorkian I SUPPORT THE USE OF SILICA BB BASTARDS!

November 9th, 2007, 13:17	#15
Griffin Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mississauga, Ontario	Yes its just the luck of the draw! for me, my Un order spent 8 days at customs and was released 12am last night. I had ordered Metal slide/outer barrel some mags etc for G19 so will see what I get ding for in charges. My last order made through Huang, a CASV had $20 tacked on to the declared 30 price.

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