WE SCAR-L Open Bolt Not Feeding

[Bar1975]

i have a brand new WE SCAR-L OPEN BOLT (Literally brand new guys)

I have 4 brand new mags as well.... all newer generation mags.

the godamm thing doesn't feed!!! How can a brand new out of the box gun have issues!

I thought it may have been a mag or two but i've tried all 4 now and i get one or two shots off then it just doesn't feed.

Am i missing something obvious here or is this the reality of owning a WE.

I've tried the hop turned all the way off and i've played around with the mag bolt lock turned on and off with no difference to the end result.

Do new GBB mags like this need to be broke/worked in like some AEG mags do? Should i spray some oil down the BB track and work the spring a little?

Bring the damm thing back to TA for an exchange maybe?

[N_Force]

How did you load your very first mag with bb's? With full of bb's and then pop in the mag to load?
Now you cock it and hold the bolt open, check the front nozzle, see if there is a black piece of plastic right underneath the nozzle at the bottom, that's for feeding (pushing) bb use, is it there or broken?

[Thenooblord]

split your receivers and check that your loading finger is intact on the bottom of the nozzle

[Bar1975]

loading nozzle in place... if somethings broke it's broken from factory cause this has been hanging on my wall sense Dec when i picked it up.. shot maybe one or two mags through it.. seemed to work fine when i was playing around with it at first...

i haven't touched it since then and recently got a couple of new mags.. now it doesn't feed new or old mags it seems

stock inner barrel hasn't been cleaned yet.. maybe needs to be.

NOTE: haven't tried for consistency but it seems that when i take out the mag and put it back in it will fire a shot or two..

[daishi]

If all else fails I'll buy it off you for 100 bucks

[Emre1337]

I have a WE SCAR open bolt as well and I had the same (similar) problem as you. The "finger" on the bottom of my feeding nozzle had broken somehow, the result was that everytime I pulled the trigger, the bolt would slide back but then wouldn't move back into place after. I also bought mine from TA and when I first received mine, my trigger assembly was broken (litteraly pulled the trigger once while the gun was on semi and the trigger just snapped). When you shoot your scar, even though it may not be shooting bb's, it still cycles completely right? It could be a faulty feeding nozzle, I bought a reinforced one from airsoftparts.ca for a $110 plus shipping, came to my door in 2 days (technically one, was like 6 in the evening when I ordered) and now my SCAR feels better than ever, infact I have to hold myself from picking it up and shooting it all hours of the day. My landlord is probably cheesed...

[Kos-Mos]

Your nozzle should look like this:



The prong at the bottom will break if you fully load the mag and smack it in (it won't lock in place, so the "reflex" most people have is to smack it in).

ALWAYS fill your mag, then remove 1 BB. Saves you from replacing the nozzle.

I broke my nozzle on my second mag when I got my SCAR.
Been removing a BB ever since and I am still on my second nozzle, in the last 2 years.

[Bar1975]

100% that part is still there... it looks a little indented though (not broken) like it slammed up against a BB too hard a few times.

didn't realize about filling the mags and backing off one BB though.. it's possible in the few mags i shot through this that i slightly damaged the nozzle enough for this to happen? (WOW .. cheap WE parts for sure if so)

I am going to pick up an aluminum replacement because i want a NPAS anyways so i might as well get the whole RA-TECH nozzle with npas.

[Emre1337]

That is definitely your best bet, good luck, hope it solves your issue!

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by Bar1975

100% that part is still there... it looks a little indented though (not broken) like it slammed up against a BB too hard a few times.

didn't realize about filling the mags and backing off one BB though.. it's possible in the few mags i shot through this that i slightly damaged the nozzle enough for this to happen? (WOW .. cheap WE parts for sure if so)

I am going to pick up an aluminum replacement because i want a NPAS anyways so i might as well get the whole RA-TECH nozzle with npas.

Don't take this wrong, but you made a mistake (most likely, I did the same), the product or company is not cheap because of your error.

The aluminum nozzle will bend and probably break something else instead (and still need to be replaced as it's bent). The NPAS is also very unreliable in the aluminum nozzle (the adjustment is floating, so depending on the position it is at, the FPS varies from shot to shot).

Even if nothing breaks, the chamber block will get smashed and need to be replaced (this part is really hard to find and there is no upgrade).

Order a new plastic nozzle, and an NPAS. Total should be around 50$ shipped.

[Bar1975]

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos

Order a new plastic nozzle, and an NPAS. Total should be around 50$ shipped.

nice deal.. do you recommend the NPAS? I don't care all that much to be honest.. i just want it shooting BB's

Maybe i should just grab this plastic replacement nozzle and see if that takes care of the feeding issue. Then start upgrading as needed?

[Bar1975]

so guys after many hours spent trying to get the nozzle feeding i think i have the problem figured out. It doesn't seem to be the loading nozzle at all.. the issue seems to be the mags/feed lip are not sitting high enough in the mag well to consistently feed a bb.

There is some up and down play with all 5 of my mags in the gun and when i slowly pull the bolt back and slowly close it i can see sometimes that the nozzle doesn't feed the bb into the hop up but simply gets pushed back down into the mag itself.

I've read some tips on how to raise the feed lip on the mags (piece of plastic under the lip to raise it) but have you guys ever heard of this issue before?

[Hectic]

are they closed bolt mags? Those sit lower if i recall. Is the mag catch worn?and technicallyu dont have to remove one bb if you load the gun properly (ie lock the bolt back before putting the mag in)

[syrus]

I have never heard of having to shim a mag (especially 5). If the nozzle is pushing the bbs down instead of out the obvious problem is the angle the finger is at. It has to have an upward curve. The biggest problem people make (especially with their first gbbr ) is over filling the mags with bbs.when you put 31 bbs in a we mag it has no downward give. So the resault is usually snapping the nozzle but possibly bending it. Try getting a new loading nozzle and don't waste your time or money with an npas until you get it working.

[Bar1975]

i am now already on my second loading nozzle.. the result was the same for both.

I don't believe it has anything to do with the loading nozzle.. unless i happen to have two faulty nozzles.. one stock and one aftermarket

I was able to fire consistently when holding the mag (for sure an open bolt mag.. at least that's what i ordered online) up into the gun while shooting so it's definitely an issue with the height of the mag in the well... with a small credit card shim under the feeding lip i was just able to empty an entire mag for the first time ever with this gun.

should i try 'shaping' the loading nozzle feeding finger to more of an angle? I have two nozzles now so i can play around with one to see if that works.. save me from having to shim 4 other mags