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March 25th, 2013, 16:34 | #1 |
Najohn
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Boogie Regulators fogging
I have seen this issue talked about before but didn't find a for sure solution. I just recently gamed my pair for the first time, and for the most part it worked without a hitch. I only ran into issues when I was standing still, indoors, or when there wasn't a breeze (the whole self venting thing I get).
I'm just wondering if any users have found a solution for this. I tried fog tech but it instantly fogged when night time hit at the game (was indoors at that point too). Please help |
March 25th, 2013, 16:43 | #2 | |
Oh we do hate you, just never felt like wasting the time to give you a user title :P
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Did they fog at night or was it condensation (ie on the outside from cooler air on the warmer lense)
I dont use those paticular eyepro but i rarely have issues with fogtech on any goggles or glasses i just treat the inside and out and im good to go. I should note i use the fogtech wipes not the drops. With fogtech you shouldnt get fog at all you will get water droplets when its really humid or you really sweating and it is annoying but its beter to have slightly blured vision then a compleate fog up lol
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March 25th, 2013, 17:00 | #3 |
Merica'
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All antifog will ever do is cause water to bead off rather than fog. It's just one form of hydrophobic substance or another. The only thing that will stop fog is correcting the temperature differential that causes the condensation in the first place... IE ventilation whether by vents or fan, or not being such a hot sweaty sexy asian hipster.
Rapid science lesson: The temperature of air dictates it's ability to hold moisture. Colder air holds less moisture, warmer holds more. Cooling some warm moist air will increase it's relative humidity (how much moisture air at that temperature can hold). When the air is cooled but moisture content doesn't change, excess moisture results in condensation IE fog. The regulators are too close to the face, and don't have enough ventilation. They seal in the warm moist air from your skin, and the colder air outside cools the lens. The air in contact with the lens cools to its dewpoint and deposits its moisture on your lens. The only way to prevent this is to replace that warm moist air with cool outside air before it condenses. From the design of the regulator, this is pretty much impossible. You'd probably have more luck in warmer weather, though humid weather is going to cause it as well. tl;dr : you're fucked. sorry.
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March 25th, 2013, 17:20 | #4 | |
put a maxi pad in there...
I have a pair that I don't wear, don't fit my massive noggin. Have you tried inserting small straw like tubes into the foam to increase breathability of the goggles? I was gonna suggest removing a bit of foam to allow air in but that may allow BBs to pass through. Maybe not so close put together but hope the picture helps portray what I mean. Will have to make sure the tubes are secured so they don't move when you run or get hit there by a BB.
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March 25th, 2013, 17:23 | #5 |
GBB Whisperer
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I've been looking at my regulars, and have been thinking about simply cutting narrow 2mm channels across the top and bottom of the foam to allow for greater ventilation at the top and bottom. This is more important for fast humidity dissipation than the little vent holes at the front provide.
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March 25th, 2013, 17:27 | #6 | |
Hot air rises but cold air is trying to get in the same vents the hot air is escaping. A set of holes on the bottom would of vastly improved these goggles but not sure why they didn't do so in the first place.
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March 25th, 2013, 17:32 | #7 |
GBB Whisperer
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I would imagine it was to allow for a better dust seal... conditions which we wouldn't normally experience in airsoft.
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March 25th, 2013, 17:34 | #8 | |
I'd save having those holes with no filters alone will allow dust in just as bad as having more holes
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March 25th, 2013, 17:35 | #9 |
GBB Whisperer
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That's why they have the option to close those holes with the flick of a switch. That would be a harder feat to achieve with top and bottom vents in the foam, without sacrificing the ultra low profile fit that these currently have.
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March 25th, 2013, 17:42 | #10 | |
I was thinking of the same closeable vents on top to be put on bottom of the lens too
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March 25th, 2013, 17:44 | #11 |
GBB Whisperer
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The holes are still on the front face of the lens... for greatest effectiveness, the holes should exist at the very top of the frame, where the foam currently exists.
Vents at the front of the lens at the bottom would be fine for drawing air in... but don't forget, that it's also closer to your mouth, which would be another contributor for humidity source when you're breathing heavily. |
March 25th, 2013, 18:48 | #12 |
Merica'
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Military technology hasn't really caught up to goggles and glasses. Save for sun/wind/dust goggles, the past 10 years has been the first big push on eyepro at all times. I remember when ballistic eyewear got issued nobody really wore them except as sunglasses, then all of a sudden there was this big "it saves your eyes from IEDs" revelation and it was mandatory to wear them pretty much at all times. However, in desert environments fogging is pretty much a non issue, as the air is so hot and dry you'll never reach dewpoint with your body moisture and heat. There hasn't been much consideration for fogging in military design. We need another jungle war before we see that kind of kit.
Complete sidebar but ya. Sorry nate lol.
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March 25th, 2013, 19:28 | #13 |
Ministry of Peace
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I cut two small vents in the foam of these goggles on top and on the bottom and it completely solves the fogging issue.
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March 31st, 2013, 15:08 | #14 | |
Najohn
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Thanks for all the suggestions so far. |
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April 3rd, 2013, 16:48 | #15 |
formerly FrankieCees, Remylebeau
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I'm always on the search for low profile googles like these and was about to buy them at one point in time.
I'm using the BBBastards Orange ones (elvex i think?) and they fog like shit too, using the elastic band. I'd just like to note that fogtech is SHIT compared to the Dollarama ($3 8 to a box i think?) bushnell wipes - they SOAK their cloths and I could pass this around to at least 5 people before it runs dry. Last edited by Rabbit; April 3rd, 2013 at 16:50.. |
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