Trade issues... deja vu anybody?

[Thenooblord]

Well this seems a recurring theme nowadays, I didn't want to post this up, but its been almost a month now and I can't wait any longer

I traded a TM spas 12 with 8 shells to user Alleblanc for a newish WE luger with 4 mags and $100, he was going to put the cash in the box, and he forgot, fair enough, so he was going to paypal me that friday, then a week later with still no funds he said he had forgotten that paypal takes 8 days to get funds from his bank, now 2 weeks after that I've heard nothing from him

then on to the gun itself, described as almost new, said he shot a few mags through it, ok fine, but the toggle had a major crack in it, and when I took it off to try to reinforce it with some JBweld, it fell apart in my hand, I'm not so mad over the fact that i have to buy a new part, it cost me $9.50 US shipped from WE directly, but more that he didn't mention the crack in the messages he sent me

as some of you know I recently took a gun back from Kid when he was dissatisfied, however I have no cash to repay him for the gun, even though he sent it back to me, and having not just Alleblanc but multiple ASCers promise me money and not pay up is not helping things, seeing as right now I have $1200 worth of "I'll send you that money tonight" that hasn't shown up, is this always a problem? or something recent thats just starting to happen

so long story short, I know he's on ASC daily, has anybody been in contact with him recently or know what's up?

[L473ncy]

I dunno.... I think there should be a stricter vetting process for AV but that just adds a lot of administrative overhead to both the volunteers and board mods.

This always seems to be a problem when such systems get large and unwieldy and the only solution would be some sort of fundamental change. TBH I think I would only deal with people with join dates before 2009 and at least 2 or 3 positive rep but for newer members I would ask them to go first.

[SHaKaL]

I don't buy from peoples without any positive trader ratings or with recent joining date.
And i never had problems except for a well known ex-retailer... Even then; i did received my aeg (with a 2 months delay).

[pusangani]

I gave you $5 last night Alex, worth every penny too

[HKGhost]

I say everybody has two chances like this. After that, the AV status should be revoked by the mods.

[Thenooblord]

he has a few ratings, positive, and Kid was one of them and I asked him and He said that the guy was very good to deal with, so I dont know what happened here

[Boyso]

I played with him twice.

I do not own any personnal information, but he's going to Rawdon at the end of this month and so do I.

If by then you still haven't received anything, I'll go see him.

Best I can do, althought I doubt he'd do this without a good reason.

[SHaKaL]

Forgot something;
I had used paypal to order some gear from Russia. I don't have a credit card and it took Paypal almost 3 weeks to process my payment.

Maybe its what happening to him now?

[Thenooblord]

never taken me more than 8 days to transfer from bank to paypal, and besides, that doesnt explain his not returning my PMs for 2 weeks, unless he thinks that if he doesnt say anything then everything is fine

[Gunny_McSmith]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

never taken me more than 8 days to transfer from bank to paypal, and besides, that doesnt explain his not returning my PMs for 2 weeks, unless he thinks that if he doesnt say anything then everything is fine

depends.... sometimes it can take 2-3 days.... and another time...2-3 weeks...lol

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

never taken me more than 8 days to transfer from bank to paypal, and besides, that doesnt explain his not returning my PMs for 2 weeks, unless he thinks that if he doesnt say anything then everything is fine

Sounds like he has done what you have, promise to pay people with money he does not have.

[Thenooblord]

where have I said that? If you're referring to Kid, he sent it back knowing I couldn't pay him

[venture]

i think for trades that the person with the higher trader rating is justified asking the other person to ship first.

[cooney]

Originally Posted by venture

i think for trades that the person with the higher trader rating is justified asking the other person to ship first.

+1 to that.

[Sbradshaw]

not only higher, but better trader rating! i have a higher trader rating than some that i have dealt with, but i do have some black marks on there so i have no qualms with shipping first. if the deal is legit there shouldnt be an issue. and if speed is an issue, use priority shipping and pay for the speed!