TM 1911 balance.. or lack thereof

Degenetron · July 8th, 2010, 18:53

Ok, i dunno if this has been an issue before, but i thought i'd like to raise it

Am i the only one who thinks Marui 1911 models are wildly unbalanced? I recently got a MEU and it felt like i was gripping onto a lead cylinder untill i replaced the original grips. There is absolutely no weight in the front and the ballast they store in the grips are semi ok, if you do not have a magazine inserted.. but once you do .. it is very very grip heavy.. i understand they want to get as close to the RS in weight as possible.. but ffs.. adding all that weight in one place is not the way to go.. Thoughts?

Slono · July 8th, 2010, 19:04

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Originally Posted by Degenetron

Ok, i dunno if this has been an issue before, but i thought i'd like to raise it

Am i the only one who thinks Marui 1911 models are wildly unbalanced? I recently got a MEU and it felt like i was gripping onto a lead cylinder untill i replaced the original grips. There is absolutely no weight in the front and the ballast they store in the grips are semi ok, if you do not have a magazine inserted.. but once you do .. it is very very grip heavy.. i understand they want to get as close to the RS in weight as possible.. but ffs.. adding all that weight in one place is not the way to go.. Thoughts?

Yeah its unbalanced. Upgrade to a metal kit and some internals like your outer barrel + chamber, and you'll notice a dramatic change in weight distribution. I have aluminum grips on my gun too so with the mag inserted into the gun, it feels lovely... yes lovely.

EDIT: If you want to be ambitious, and depending on the material your pistol grips are made from, you can hollow them out to accept the stock metal inserts. One of my 1911s is wearing a pair of OD gunner grips hollowed out to accept the inserts.

Degenetron · July 8th, 2010, 19:13

well yeah, i got soem imitation ivory grips on mine and just removing the grip weights helped dramaticaly.. and i do intend to upgrade to full metal.. i guess this post was more of a "wtf were they thinking" rant

As i said earlier it's fine that they wahnt to match the RS weight.. but doing so by adding all the weight in the grip is next to uselsess in my book.. I almos sold it off right away jus cause it felt so damn imbalanced..

Slono · July 8th, 2010, 19:23

Yup. Its so unbalanced the first time I held it it felt like I was holding a brick.

Degenetron · July 8th, 2010, 19:42

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Originally Posted by Slono

Yup. Its so unbalanced the first time I held it it felt like I was holding a brick.

so true

on its orignial form there really is no weight to the barrel/slide assembly at all.. not looking to badmouth it cause the gun shoots brilliantly,.. just well.. jus have a hard time graspping that it actually needs a full metal upgrade to work right.

EDIT: it really is the most accurate gun i've owned.. straight outta the box it shoots tighter and longer than my hicapa thats got a pdi tightbore and AS superlightweight bbu just.. it feels like a plastic gun tha neeed a couple weights in it .. The hicapa dont.

Styrak · July 8th, 2010, 20:09

That's because the Hicapa has a metal midframe which make the balance a bit better.

TM only makes mostly plastic pistols. But you won't really find a better performing pistol than a TM.

Degenetron · July 8th, 2010, 20:23

Oh im not badmouthing the performance.. The MEU performs as wll stock as my 4.3 capa with a pdi and an AS bbu.. just well.. the balance is fucked..

juicy · July 8th, 2010, 20:42

lol, but the performance makes it oh so worth it.

I dunno, I've got a clone metal MEU myself, and gas consumption when compared side by side to a stock TM is really quite noticeable. Mind you, I use my MEU as a secondary - I've never had to field it as a primary, and therefore cool down never really comes into play. For the summer, a metal MEU (clone as it may be) running a 150% Guarder spring kit with 1.5 coils cut off of the recoil spring seems to be doing fine though. I'm averaging about 23 rapidly fired shots with one mag, some cool down around the 15th shot - but hell, when am I ever going to smoke someone with 15 shots from a secondary anyway? Metal does sound so much nicer than the plastic TM though... the clink on 1911's is what I live for. Without that... well, it's just plastic, it's pretty ... meh sounding, for a lack of a better term.

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July 8th, 2010, 18:53	#1
Degenetron Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Norway	TM 1911 balance.. or lack thereof Ok, i dunno if this has been an issue before, but i thought i'd like to raise it Am i the only one who thinks Marui 1911 models are wildly unbalanced? I recently got a MEU and it felt like i was gripping onto a lead cylinder untill i replaced the original grips. There is absolutely no weight in the front and the ballast they store in the grips are semi ok, if you do not have a magazine inserted.. but once you do .. it is very very grip heavy.. i understand they want to get as close to the RS in weight as possible.. but ffs.. adding all that weight in one place is not the way to go.. Thoughts?

July 8th, 2010, 19:23	#4
Slono Slow mo. Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: GTA	Yup. Its so unbalanced the first time I held it it felt like I was holding a brick. __________________ The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

July 8th, 2010, 20:09	#6
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	That's because the Hicapa has a metal midframe which make the balance a bit better. TM only makes mostly plastic pistols. But you won't really find a better performing pistol than a TM. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

July 8th, 2010, 19:13	#3
Degenetron Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Norway	well yeah, i got soem imitation ivory grips on mine and just removing the grip weights helped dramaticaly.. and i do intend to upgrade to full metal.. i guess this post was more of a "wtf were they thinking" rant As i said earlier it's fine that they wahnt to match the RS weight.. but doing so by adding all the weight in the grip is next to uselsess in my book.. I almos sold it off right away jus cause it felt so damn imbalanced..

July 8th, 2010, 20:23	#7
Degenetron Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Norway	Oh im not badmouthing the performance.. The MEU performs as wll stock as my 4.3 capa with a pdi and an AS bbu.. just well.. the balance is fucked..

July 8th, 2010, 20:42	#8
juicy Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Richmond, BC	lol, but the performance makes it oh so worth it. I dunno, I've got a clone metal MEU myself, and gas consumption when compared side by side to a stock TM is really quite noticeable. Mind you, I use my MEU as a secondary - I've never had to field it as a primary, and therefore cool down never really comes into play. For the summer, a metal MEU (clone as it may be) running a 150% Guarder spring kit with 1.5 coils cut off of the recoil spring seems to be doing fine though. I'm averaging about 23 rapidly fired shots with one mag, some cool down around the 15th shot - but hell, when am I ever going to smoke someone with 15 shots from a secondary anyway? Metal does sound so much nicer than the plastic TM though... the clink on 1911's is what I live for. Without that... well, it's just plastic, it's pretty ... meh sounding, for a lack of a better term.

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