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Old May 13th, 2010, 12:31   #1
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New TMs....

Its that time of the year again...
http://www.hyperdouraku.com/event/ho...005/index.html
http://www.hyperdouraku.com/event/ho...005/part2.html

For the Shizuoka show TM is displaying some new toys....

-GBB Glock 18C + long mag
-EBBR "Recce" M4 and "SEALs" M4
-High firing rate AEG M4
-"Night Warrior" 1911(5", railed, basically black Desert 4.3 lower +MEU slide with different engraving)+(more importantly) 40rd long mag for 1911.
-Hunter version of VSR(supposedly more accurate)
-Looks to be a more advanced prototype of the PX4 Storm GBB
-Same prototype mold of the XD, HK45, and M&P
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Old May 13th, 2010, 12:36   #2
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Its that time of the year again...
http://www.hyperdouraku.com/event/ho...005/index.html
http://www.hyperdouraku.com/event/ho...005/part2.html

For the Shizuoka show TM is displaying some new toys....

-GBB Glock 18C + long mag
-EBBR "Recce" M4 and "SEALs" M4
-High firing rate AEG M4
-"Night Warrior" 1911(5", railed, basically black Desert 4.3 lower +MEU slide with different engraving)+(more importantly) 40rd long mag for 1911.
-Hunter version of VSR(supposedly more accurate)
-Looks to be a more advanced prototype of the PX4 Storm GBB
-Same prototype mold of the XD, HK45, and M&P
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Old May 13th, 2010, 12:37   #3
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that grouping at 10 meters is good? whut?
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Old May 13th, 2010, 12:47   #4
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not on the GBBR bandwagon yet?

Their EBBR is their thing....I doubt they'll abandon that easily....TM started making RC and trainset, so motor drive stuff is still "their thing" I guess...

I'd love to see a GBBR from TM though....I figure though maybe a subgun is as far as they'll go....
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Old May 13th, 2010, 13:13   #5
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mmmmmmm M&P....
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Old May 13th, 2010, 13:16   #6
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The hunter VSR is apparently more accurate, but shiny as hell, ugh!
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Old May 13th, 2010, 14:47   #7
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I'm liking the looks for the Night Warrior... The Parkerized-ish finish on the frame plus black slide plus rail mount equals a win in my books.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 14:49   #8
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I'm liking the looks for the Night Warrior... The Parkerized-ish finish on the frame plus black slide plus rail mount equals a win in my books.
plus 40 round mag lol..

I'm kinda liking the 18C and the XDM
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Old May 13th, 2010, 14:58   #9
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that grouping at 10 meters is good? whut?
says it's a 2.5cm grouping @ 10m... so 1inch @ 10metres

out of the box it's pretty good, but upgraded? You're right, not really good.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 15:10   #10
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plus 40 round mag lol..

I'm kinda liking the 18C and the XDM
Haha, I was just thinking about that 40 round mag - how the hell could I feasibly carry 4+ of them, lol. Just imagine trying to find mag pouches that fit the slim mags... gah.

Hmm, I'd be interested to have someone nearby (*ahem* Skladfin, you Magpul whore...) pick up one of those S&W MP's or whatever one day - they look comfy.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:28   #11
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TM are known to have very reliable pistols. Does anybody here thinks that their Glock 18C will be way more reliable than a KSC?

Because I have heard that full auto pistols especially KSC Glocks are prone to alot of problems and not worth investing in. So I was just wondering if the TM would be any different...
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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:30   #12
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Haha, I was just thinking about that 40 round mag - how the hell could I feasibly carry 4+ of them, lol. Just imagine trying to find mag pouches that fit the slim mags... gah.
Conceivably, you could stick them in Eagle FB or lined Kydex style pouches byt practically your reloads should probably be 7-9 rounders. Keep the 40rounder in the holstered gun.

That HK45 is looking pretty sexy too. It's got an aggressiveness that the USP just doesn't seem to have, and it looks like the bore/chamber axis is lower...
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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:34   #13
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Full auto pistols are full auto pistols, regardless of brand. There's a lot of stress on a lot of small parts, and failure rate is high, regardless of the brand. Naturally, the cheap crap will break down easier. I've seen more than a couple of HFC auto Berettas bit the biscuit on their fist few mags. KSC do tend to hold out longer due to their better quality, but they tend to break down as well. I can imagine if they were operated solely on duster has (as they were designed to), they'd probably hold out better.

That being said, with TM's track record for pistols, I would expect them to be as good if not better than KSC. That being said, operating them on propane / green gas, I would expect them to eventually fail as all other full auto pistols do. They're just likely to last a bit longer.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:50   #14
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Haha, I was just thinking about that 40 round mag - how the hell could I feasibly carry 4+ of them, lol. Just imagine trying to find mag pouches that fit the slim mags... gah.
I have a triple SMG pouch for my 3x TM 50 round Hicapa mags. Works great.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:50   #15
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How well do TM Hicapa extremes hold up compared to ksc autoglocks? You could use that as an approximate comparison.
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