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Old May 22nd, 2010, 02:11   #31
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A P90 is a good option for small framed people, I tried the CTAR21 today and found it a little awkward as well. Now I'm a big guy at 6ft and found the grip to be a bit too far forward for me to use in CQB, I really have to arch my shoulders forward to get a good handle and to counter the heavier weight in the rear where all the guts are.

Now by comparison to a P90, I can put my face right up against the iron sights no problem considering its about 1/4 of the way behind the barrel. Its surprisingly ergonomical except for swapping out mags because of it's unconventional design. Not to say you can't speed reload a P90, it just requires a much different set of muscle memory movement.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 02:30   #32
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Doesn't the P90 feel a bit short for you in long range fire fights? I've watched a lot of p90 vids on youtube and thats just the way it looks...
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 02:35   #33
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im just gunna leave this here





as a note. this gun was bought in a physical store NOT online. it is 100% canadian legal and is ALL black. there are no clear anything on this gun, unless you count the red dot. as explained to me the importation issue has NOTHING TO DO WITH BODY COLOUR. its about fps limits, ironically what makes these guns canadian leagal it that the fps had to be increased to allow importation. this store sells largely to law enforcment, with LEO in there quite often, so i know this is legal. last i heard there was someone in southern Ontario trying to get a deal going to import ares guns but, ill let sam explain that. good luck and get AV'ed

the is very back heavy tho, but feels solid.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 02:41   #34
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This gun isn't big at all, and I'm 5'3-5'4. I've held it before. The back is heavier than the front, just like the real steel.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 03:07   #35
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hte p90's barrel is not much shorter then the m4's.
i've handled them many times, and have always loved it. i'm 5'10.
if you think its too small you can always add a silencer with a longer inner barrel, but i think it defeats the purpose.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 03:08   #36
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Oh no. No no no no. NO. Not another person inspired by fucking Modern Warfare 2. Everytime I hear about someone being inspired by Modern Warfare 2, I grind my teeth and start getting the rage sweats.
What about people inspired by rainbow six ?
cause that game made me love mp5s
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 17:22   #37
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Oh no. No no no no. NO. Not another person inspired by fucking Modern Warfare 2. Everytime I hear about someone being inspired by Modern Warfare 2, I grind my teeth and start getting the rage sweats.
Why's that? Seems like a silly thing to get upset over. So someone plays a military-themed shooter, and realizes they are interested in military themed things, so they go out and start playing a military themed sport. God forbid.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 21:54   #38
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The reason is that because most of the people who play MW2 then jump on board for airsoft have the wrong attitude about things as we have seen time and time again. Its always hilarious seeing the moment when people realize vidya games and real life application have next to nothing to do with each other.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 22:05   #39
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It's so funny to hear how kids these days play a video game, then want to become like their hero and pretend they are with airsoft.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 22:11   #40
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Im going to pretend im Arnold, not that Danny Glover bullshit.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 22:23   #41
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Doesn't the P90 feel a bit short for you in long range fire fights? I've watched a lot of p90 vids on youtube and thats just the way it looks...
I use my P90 primarily in CQB fights but the inner barrel is the same length as an M4 or G36C. You can easily swap it out for a precision inner barrel for added accuracy and distance. Or as mentioned, get a longer inner barrel and cover the rest with a silencer or a longer outer barrel making it a PS90 (civilian P90).
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 00:24   #42
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It's so funny to hear how kids these days play a video game, then want to become like their hero and pretend they are with airsoft.
As apposed to all the adults who go out into the bush and play soldier for much more respectable reasons
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 00:42   #43
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As apposed to all the adults who go out into the bush and play soldier for much more respectable reasons
Yes, like enjoying time outdoors with friends. And this reason applies to anyone of any age.



On topic,

My wife actually was eyeballing the TAR-21 at one point, I can imagine it would be more comfortable for people with smaller frames.

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Old May 23rd, 2010, 01:05   #44
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Yes, like enjoying time outdoors with friends. And this reason applies to anyone of any age.
Sorry, just thought it was a bit strange for guys dressed in full army gear holding toy guns to talk down on kids for wanting to pretend they're characters from a video game. All well and good spending time outdoors with friends, but if that's all you wanted to do, then go hiking or camping. Lets not act like being inspired by Soap Mactavish is any sillier than any other players reasons.

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Old May 23rd, 2010, 01:17   #45
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Sorry, just thought it was a bit strange for guys dressed in full army gear holding toy guns to talk down on kids for wanting to pretend they're characters from a video game. All well and good spending time outdoors with friends, but if that's all you wanted to do, then go hiking or camping. Lets not act like being inspired by Soap Mactavish is any sillier than any other players reasons.

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there's a difference between dressing up as a TF-141 guy or a s.t.a.r's commando and dressing for the situation.

I use various camo's and webbing sets tailored to whatever terrian I may be fighting in, wether hot or cold, wet or dry, desert, wooded or urban I'm appropriately geared for the battle and "combat effective" (you should read up on what that means)

guy's who show up wearing a skull balaclava, jeans, and a grey softshell that's supposed to be worn in COLD WEATHER (not to mention you stand out pretty well in the woods) and hefting an mp5k at a game in a hot wooded area in the middle of May are clearly retarded and have no idea how to prepare, and in prettymuch every case, act in combat...

you show up wearing gear like that, that's clearly not meant for that arena, pouch for pouch a replica of a dude from a video game, weilding a weapon that clearly won't do the job, Imma treat you just like the moron who show's up wearing a Clone trooper costume

airsoft is simulating combat, not video games, I believe you have this sport confused with cosplay
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