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Old February 21st, 2009, 03:27   #31
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Ditto for the flip flop attitude after the A part of the QA session. I suppose it's always better to see both sides in action before true judgement should be made anyway, but I didn't even consider some of the things these could do.

I'll give them a shot some time this year... /pun
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Old February 21st, 2009, 12:47   #32
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I would really like to see a few nice quality videos. It would be nice to see how the markings come off of various pieces of gear. And most importantly what the hop-up unit, a magazine, and a tight-bore barrel of a single AEG look like after a couple thousand rounds.

And for god's sake...please don't let the monkey with the camera in the posted video do the filming.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 14:40   #33
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I would really like to see a few nice quality videos. It would be nice to see how the markings come off of various pieces of gear. And most importantly what the hop-up unit, a magazine, and a tight-bore barrel of a single AEG look like after a couple thousand rounds.

And for god's sake...please don't let the monkey with the camera in the posted video do the filming.
Nod... it's a little itty bitty video cam, uneven ground, and less than ideal results... Who am I kidding, the video is so shaky it makes me dizzy, but the GT member who shot it is kinda cute (but I didn't say that) and she wouldn't have an issue feed dressing someone with a rusty spoon, so shhhh! You'll unleash forces not meant to be disturbed by mortals. Besides, she did the best that anyone probably could have under the circumstances.

One of the YT vids is actually a demo of the removal of the marks... It is also a "Shaky Cam" spectacular so grab some motion sickness pills before you view it. A "Steady Cam" isn't in the budget at the moment.

This Thread on Airsoftforum includes picks of an independent user stripping his gun for cleaning. Actually that thread pretty much details the chronology of their development. The folks there put a lot of effort into testing them for us and giving us the odd kick in the butt or pat on the head as we deserved along the way. It's better than Gerry Springer in a few places. Give it read if you have a few minutes.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 15:27   #34
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I would really like to try some of these out. And I agree the implications for these could be endless. Medic rules is a big one, also they would be good for target shooting seeing you could pretty much just make a permanent target to shoot at so you dont have to keep posting up paper targets, just wipe off the marks and go again.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 15:29   #35
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I would really like to try some of these out. And I agree the implications for these could be endless. Medic rules is a big one, also they would be good for target shooting seeing you could pretty much just make a permanent target to shoot at so you dont have to keep posting up paper targets, just wipe off the marks and go again.
I know the feeling, I must have ran through almost a bundle package of paper targets I print out whenever I calibrate my guns.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 15:59   #36
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I'm sure some people will be thrilled at getting paint on their gear.

There's this other sport, its very similar to airsoft but it uses paint: it's called paintball. Get RAP4s and play that if you want paint.
Not to be a stitch nazi or anything, but I'd have a major problem if, by a player who had not declared he was using any kind of 'marking' BB, any peice of my original DATED WWII gear was hit....
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 16:11   #37
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Not to be a stitch nazi or anything, but I'd have a major problem if, by a player who had not declared he was using any kind of 'marking' BB, any peice of my original DATED WWII gear was hit....
You have nothing to worry about.

As said before these have a more tactical value for more specific games its not going to replace the honour system nor is it going to replace Airsoft. Its just another tool to sweeten the gameplay of certain scenarios.

And if someone were using them without your knowledge then that means its onus on the game host. I have been to fields where only .20g's are used and the game hosts thoroughly does quick checks for any newcomers and if they want to play they have to buy the .20g at his venue.

And I am sure for the WWII gear I see a lot of pics of WWII scenario gamers who only play with WWII gear owners and if they don't want stains then I am sure they won't stain other people.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 16:12   #38
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Not to be a stitch nazi or anything, but I'd have a major problem if, by a player who had not declared he was using any kind of 'marking' BB, any peice of my original DATED WWII gear was hit....
so, none of the fields you play, in your original dated WWII gear, is a paintball field?

I try to avoid getting paint from obstacles but it's inevitable, paint will transfer.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 16:14   #39
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My thoughts:

Reasonable price - would have to be close to the current BB Bastard price.
Notification - a player should announce he's using these rounds before the game starts

Question, how will this marker react in an open wound? If you give someone a bleeder with one of these rounds, will it get infected or cause a reaction?
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 16:30   #40
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Their website says they only use food and cosmetic grade materials in the bbs so you should be clear from allergic reaction but there is always the risk of infection with any open wound. That being said I really want to get a bag of these and try them.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 17:14   #41
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I think these would be good for players like me who wear alot of gear and a nice heavy duty vest. many times i cant even feel the hits to my body, so at places like tac i think it would be great if others were shooting at me with these kind of bbs.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 19:05   #42
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Very interesting concept indeed. I'd be interested to see how they fare in long-term use, storage etc etc. I'm sure I'm not the only guy to keep an un-wound hi-cap full of bb's when not in use to save some space.

As for the issue with a "shake cam", I'd suggest you spend $30 and get a tripod, set the camera on it and then bring the items you are shooting up TO the camera, rather than shake all over the place while making me feel the need to vomit from motion sickness

Plus, using the pan/tilt function on the tripod will make things look a hell of a lot better. Plus, consider posting the videos on Vimeo.com so we can see the higher resolution vids.
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