Rifle left with me for over a year in storage?

[mmmken]

Hi ASC,

I have a question involving a situation that I'm not sure what options I have.

Basically, I made a trade sometime last year and things didn't go as planned. The rifle I received was broken on arrival and was diagnosed with a ton of problems by a local gun doctor. I spoke with the member that I traded with and we decided to trade back. Since his rifle was broken, I agreed to hold it and help assist with getting it fixed by the gun doctor (local to me) that diagnosed it. It was also understood that he would be responsible for all repair fees and shipping costs (for both guns to be returned). There was never a time limit specified on how long I would hold it for, as I did not anticipate more than a few months at most.

I believe he had some money issues at the time, so we agreed to hold off until that situation got better. Regardless, I would message him from time to time asking for updates. He would never be the one who updated me on his initiative.

A month ago I sent him another update query but it went unreplied. I noticed he did login a day after sending the message, so I'm sure he saw the message. I messaged him again last week and again there was no response. He logged in recently (after my message) as well.

The gun is of no monetary value since it's probably beyond repair, so that might be why it's so hard to get the gun out of my house.. but until he specifies otherwise, I can't throw it out or do anything with it since the gun still belongs to him. I'm lost here.. help me out.

[Styrak]

If it's been that long, and he isn't willing to pay to reimburse the cost you spent on the gun to repair it (that it sounds like he agreed to) or to pay for shipping it back, then sell it and recoup your costs.

I've done it before for someone who didn't pick up their gun for 6+ months (and pay for the repair as well). I gave them a deadline of 1 or 2 months in the future, and informed them if they didn't pick it up, I would do with it as I chose. They never picked it up. I sold it.

Might sound harsh, but it's what you have to do sometimes.

[mmmken]

Originally Posted by Styrak

If it's been that long, and he isn't willing to pay to reimburse the cost you spent on the gun to repair it (that it sounds like he agreed to) or to pay for shipping it back, then sell it and recoup your costs.

I've done it before for someone who didn't pick up their gun for 6+ months (and pay for the repair as well). I gave them a deadline of 1 or 2 months in the future, and informed them if they didn't pick it up, I would do with it as I chose. They never picked it up. I sold it.

Whoops.

The gun was never repaired since he never was able to give me an update of what he wanted to do with it. The problem isn't that he isn't willing to pay (it never got to that point), but it's that he hasn't been able to decide what he wants done with it, and now more recently, he has been non-responsive to my messages.

There hasn't been any monetary costs to me (yet), aside from the money I spent on diagnosis (but that was because I wanted to find out, and not him).

If there were any (reasonable) costs associated, it would be a clear cut decision - but in this case, there isn't. Would it be enough to give notice and demand that the gun needs to be picked or shipped out within a certain time - and if no response is received within x days/weeks, I may throw it out or something?

[AngelusNex]

Give him 30 days then sell it. After a year he owes you storage fees.

Message should be something along the lines of : You have 30 days from today (adding in the date) to pay for me to ship your gun or send money for the repairs, after the 30 days (clearly stating which day/month that is) I will be selling the gun/parts, if you decide you want it after that you can pay what I'm asking in full.

[Kozzie]

If he's logging in he must have seen your messages. My guess is that if it's important to him and he really wanted it back he wouldn't let it linger for so long. All you can do is make an effort and give him fair a chance to get it back, and it sounds like you have. Beyond that it's his lack action and you shouldn't have to store his "abandoned" stuff.

Message him, tell him you want to get his gun back to him but more importantly you just want to be rid of it. Give him a reasonable time frame, 30 days should be plenty for him to come up with shipping costs, 60 days if you're feeling kind. And if he can't make an effort to get his shit back by then you're going to sell it off end of story.

[ILLusion]

If this is the M700 AICS, I did not take this from you a few months ago, because I was starting to get in to my move, and I didn't want to take on any more large guns - mainly due to the potential for damage during the move.

Now that I'm starting to settle down here, I can take this on. After a year, I finally got a source to replace the broken sear - and this was already mentioned to the owner.

Get the go ahead from him to put the gun in my hands, and I'll fix it for him in to fully working condition again, if he still wants to keep this gun... despite all the bad experience he's had with it. From my last comms with him, he did want to get this fixed up so that it was fully working, so that he could sell it. Unfortunately, his experience with it is fully soured.

[mmmken]

Originally Posted by ILLusion

If this is the M700 AICS, I did not take this from you a few months ago, because I was starting to get in to my move, and I didn't want to take on any more large guns - mainly due to the potential for damage during the move.

Now that I'm starting to settle down here, I can take this on. After a year, I finally got a source to replace the broken sear - and this was already mentioned to the owner.

Get the go ahead from him to put the gun in my hands, and I'll fix it for him in to fully working condition again, if he still wants to keep this gun... despite all the bad experience he's had with it. From my last comms with him, he did want to get this fixed up so that it was fully working, so that he could sell it. Unfortunately, his experience with it is fully soured.

Yep, that's the one.

No worries. You have not a shred of fault here. It never even got to the point where I needed to ask if you were available or not, lol. I'll try giving him an ultimatum of 60 days to figure out something. I've already held it for a year, another two months is nothing.