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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:58   #16
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Now, having looked into both sides of this.

At no point was the stock ever presented as a genuine Magpul stock: I re-checked the sales thread and it was labelled as a clone from day 1;

Reviewing the video (Infernau's) there is indeed signs of normal wear from mounting, but I saw nothing (nor did you point out anything) to support the claim of "damage";

Relating to the above, Alex Umil's claim it was "new" (even if it was in good condition) was misleading;

An attempt to mediate the situation was attempted, to which Infernau replied something along the lines of "forget it the guy's a douche" (as I was simultaneously in contact with Alex, I know there was a possibility of compensation);

How this is now being presented as being genuine Magpul vs Element repro strikes me as a complete scam: Infernau, whatever your next post is, I would seriously think twice about what it's content will be.


Either way, Alex Umil had been previously warned and has had his AV status revoked due to an unrelated dispute.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 11:08   #17
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He is certainly quick to respond to the pm of his age verification being removed.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 11:55   #18
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Now, having looked into both sides of this.

At no point was the stock ever presented as a genuine Magpul stock: I re-checked the sales thread and it was labelled as a clone from day 1;

Reviewing the video (Infernau's) there is indeed signs of normal wear from mounting, but I saw nothing (nor did you point out anything) to support the claim of "damage";

Relating to the above, Alex Umil's claim it was "new" (even if it was in good condition) was misleading;

An attempt to mediate the situation was attempted, to which Infernau replied something along the lines of "forget it the guy's a douche" (as I was simultaneously in contact with Alex, I know there was a possibility of compensation);

How this is now being presented as being genuine Magpul vs Element repro strikes me as a complete scam: Infernau, whatever your next post is, I would seriously think twice about what it's content will be.


Either way, Alex Umil had been previously warned and has had his AV status revoked due to an unrelated dispute.
drake I'm sorry but I will have to correct you on that.
I have a direct screen capture of the sales thread in question.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:04   #19
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He recently purchased a radio off me(Week and 1/2 ago) and had nothing but good communication with me. Very smooth transaction.

Also we've been in airsoft for some time now and you should consider any "magpul" that come on the classified as a clone. Use the price to figure out if it real or not.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:08   #20
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drake I'm sorry but I will have to correct you on that.
I have a direct screen capture of the sales thread in question.
Might sound like a douche but...

That's not ASC. Whatever goes on outside on ASC the staff here can't do anything about.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:09   #21
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great that something you purchased worked out. but any purchase offered and described as one thing no mater what the price stands as the description states . hope you dont buy a blue 67 mustang fender and get a blue pinto dashboard
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:12   #22
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nothing to see here

Last edited by jamex; March 8th, 2012 at 12:16.. Reason: nm. issue seems handled
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:12   #23
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Might sound like a douche but...

That's not ASC. Whatever goes on outside on ASC the staff here can't do anything about.
that may be so, but he just posted this as a warning a PSA if you will about the member saying hey i got ripped off beware.
and as this thread progresses it seems that infernau hasnt been the only one burned by umil.

Now I personally would like to hear what Umil has to say for himself.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:14   #24
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drake I'm sorry but I will have to correct you on that.
I have a direct screen capture of the sales thread in question.

Do you see "craigslist" somewhere in ASC's URL?

I don't give a shit about Craiglist, CL isn't my fucking problem nor does my jurisdiction extend to other sites; I have enough shit to deal with here.

Nor is that the same stock advertised on ASC (or the one in Infernau's video) -- which is two tone.

NOR does that CL ad even say it's a genuine Magpul stock and anyone who's performed even the least bit of due diligence will identify it as an ACM clone (the PTS versions come as either AEG or WA/PTW, not both).

The sales thread in question was here: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=135870

And was labelled a clone from day 1.

Nor did Infernau make any mention of the Magpul vs Element thing until this morning, despite several PMs about this transaction.



DON'T fucking waste my time like this, man; my patience on this topic worn paper thin as it is.
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