Pantera w93 Polish camo or Multicam?

MMatersk · July 25th, 2011, 11:17

I am trying to decide between the two patterns. I am not going for any particular kit set up. What I would be looking for is good concealment in our area. Need help deciding on the two. Maybe someone had the chance to wear both and can share on there experience?

MMatersk · July 27th, 2011, 19:20

Does anyone Know who produces the Pantera pattern for polish military?

EagleDriver · July 27th, 2011, 22:22

Helikon makes almost everything in Polish Woodland (and Desert). Even softshells, combat shirts, ECWCS, etc. They make good quality gear (and they are the supplier for the Polish Military.)

www.helikon-tex.com

You can get a lot of the items from Hwesta, a retailer in Poland:

www.hwesta.eu

MMatersk · July 27th, 2011, 22:42

Thank you Eagle, do you know anything about Miwo Military? what role do they play in regards to Uniform/equipment?

MaciekA · July 28th, 2011, 00:06

EagleDriver:

Thanks for the great find. Some of the complete sets on here are quite affordable. Tempted to get a Polish camo setup to show patriotism...

MMatersk · August 1st, 2011, 18:47

Anyone here on ASC ordered product from Helikon tex or Miwo military? I also heard Kama http://de.pphkama.pl/about makes polish camo... tried to email them without any luck where as Miwo and Helikon tex promptly replied.

EagleDriver · August 2nd, 2011, 07:32

Do not order from helikon-tex.de--it is a different site than helikon-tex.com. It is a different company and they will just take your money and never fulfill your order, as I found out the hard way.

I have not used Miwo before, so I do not know what they are like.

The Helikon gear is good quality - surprised me for the price, even with shipping from Europe. If enough people wanted to buy from them, I can order direct from the factory, but they have a $500 USD minimum order requirement.

I like the Special Forces Uniform (SFU) because it is like the old-school BDU with the "raided" features like slant pockets.

Their softshells are really nice and come in a number of patterns, including Vegetato and Multicam (camogrom.)

MMatersk · August 3rd, 2011, 02:14

Ok thanks again, Im waiting on my order of Helikon Tex items, have some relatives in Poland bringing it over by the end of the month. I will post a review once the items arrive. Although the Helmet cover I will have to get from Miwo. Still waiting on reply from KAMA its been 3 days and nothing yet....

Schlyder · August 3rd, 2011, 03:26

Helikon is good stuff, but I don't believe it is issue. But from what I recall of someone else mentioning Helikon gear is, Polish Forces guys are buying/using Helicon items also.
I have one set of SFU BDUs made by Helikon. I really like it... it's durable and comfortable. It is good quality gear.
Now, I also have a MIWO desert Pantera BDU shirt. And MIWO is the real issue stuff.
I also have two plate carriers.(summer Pantera and desert Pantera) and I believe they are made by KAMA. Real stuff, not replica.

MMatersk · August 3rd, 2011, 08:41

How did you get your KAMA gear? I am trying to get a hold of the manufacturer but with no avail..

Schlyder · August 3rd, 2011, 11:13

eBay.

EagleDriver · August 3rd, 2011, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlyder

Helikon is good stuff, but I don't believe it is issue.

I first found out about Helikon from a couple of Polish infantry officers while they were here (in the US) for a conference. They had Helikon combat shirts issued to them.

Note that for MOLLE gear that Helikon sells is the same (if not re-branded) as Condor MOLLE gear and as far as I know it is not issue gear.

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August 3rd, 2011, 03:26	#9
Schlyder IronOverlord Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Broadview,Saskatchewan	Helikon is good stuff, but I don't believe it is issue. But from what I recall of someone else mentioning Helikon gear is, Polish Forces guys are buying/using Helicon items also. I have one set of SFU BDUs made by Helikon. I really like it... it's durable and comfortable. It is good quality gear. Now, I also have a MIWO desert Pantera BDU shirt. And MIWO is the real issue stuff. I also have two plate carriers.(summer Pantera and desert Pantera) and I believe they are made by KAMA. Real stuff, not replica. __________________

August 3rd, 2011, 11:13	#11
Schlyder IronOverlord Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Broadview,Saskatchewan	eBay. __________________

July 27th, 2011, 19:20	#2
MMatersk Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mississauga	Does anyone Know who produces the Pantera pattern for polish military?

July 27th, 2011, 22:22	#3
EagleDriver Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Baltimore, MD USA	Helikon makes almost everything in Polish Woodland (and Desert). Even softshells, combat shirts, ECWCS, etc. They make good quality gear (and they are the supplier for the Polish Military.) www.helikon-tex.com You can get a lot of the items from Hwesta, a retailer in Poland: www.hwesta.eu

July 27th, 2011, 22:42	#4
MMatersk Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mississauga	Thank you Eagle, do you know anything about Miwo Military? what role do they play in regards to Uniform/equipment?

July 28th, 2011, 00:06	#5
MaciekA Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA	EagleDriver: Thanks for the great find. Some of the complete sets on here are quite affordable. Tempted to get a Polish camo setup to show patriotism...

August 1st, 2011, 18:47	#6
MMatersk Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mississauga	Anyone here on ASC ordered product from Helikon tex or Miwo military? I also heard Kama http://de.pphkama.pl/about makes polish camo... tried to email them without any luck where as Miwo and Helikon tex promptly replied.

August 2nd, 2011, 07:32	#7
EagleDriver Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Baltimore, MD USA	Do not order from helikon-tex.de--it is a different site than helikon-tex.com. It is a different company and they will just take your money and never fulfill your order, as I found out the hard way. I have not used Miwo before, so I do not know what they are like. The Helikon gear is good quality - surprised me for the price, even with shipping from Europe. If enough people wanted to buy from them, I can order direct from the factory, but they have a $500 USD minimum order requirement. I like the Special Forces Uniform (SFU) because it is like the old-school BDU with the "raided" features like slant pockets. Their softshells are really nice and come in a number of patterns, including Vegetato and Multicam (camogrom.)

August 3rd, 2011, 02:14	#8
MMatersk Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mississauga	Ok thanks again, Im waiting on my order of Helikon Tex items, have some relatives in Poland bringing it over by the end of the month. I will post a review once the items arrive. Although the Helmet cover I will have to get from Miwo. Still waiting on reply from KAMA its been 3 days and nothing yet....

August 3rd, 2011, 08:41	#10
MMatersk Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mississauga	How did you get your KAMA gear? I am trying to get a hold of the manufacturer but with no avail..

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