Motorola SABER programer/programming

[militia]

Hey guys i dont know where else to put this. If its in the wrong spot, please move mods.


Our team is all switching over to UHF radios and ive been trying to do research on programing all the sabers we are getting.

Does anyone know someone or a website or something for amature radio use, as iam totally lost on the subject.

-I know that my current saber is in 'testing' mode.
-I have purchased the rib box and cable
-I do have access to a old MS-DOS computer
-I also have software

Please do not come in here getting very technical with me. I do not know anything about these radios like the frequency split blah blah blah, except mentioned above.

Im even willing to ship our radios to a programmer.

Please help.

Thanks

We just need to have our comms up and running.

Anyone who's going to program them will need to know the freq. range, and you'll need to know what it is to determine what channels you want programmed.

Post the unit serial number and I can probably dig it up.

As for programming, I think we're about a month away from being able to handle them internally.

[gunscythe]

I can do sabers, and am happy to help if it's all revolving around legal frequencies and licensed radios...

[militia]

Originally Posted by MadMorbius

Anyone who's going to program them will need to know the freq. range, and you'll need to know what it is to determine what channels you want programmed.

Post the unit serial number and I can probably dig it up.

As for programming, I think we're about a month away from being able to handle them internally.

Hi MadMorbuis,

Thank you very much for your reply. I see the serial number but i dont know if thats what you exactly what you want so i just took a pic of the whole thing.




Thank you.

[militia]

Originally Posted by gunscythe

I can do sabers, and am happy to help if it's all revolving around legal frequencies and licensed radios...

Of course we want to keep them all legal, the only thing i know about it converting them to FRS 5 watt or something that makes them illegal?

[redhawk_six]

Where did you find sabers in vancouver?

To make it 100% legal, you'd need licenses for each radio and the freq., it's not cheap. That said there isn't much in the way of enforcment, well, actually, theres zero enforcment. It take multiple complaints to get industry canada after you, so as long as you're not using a freq thats already in use, or screwing up other peoples communications, you should be alright. I ran a 5 watt uhf on frs/gmrs channels for years and never had a problem, same goes for all the folks I know who own uhf radios.

That would appear to be a Saber 2 II 48ch SECUREnet, UHF 440-470Mhz. That puts it in the right frequency range to accept FRS/GMRS frequencies.

I assume it has 4 banks of 12 channels each, more than enough room for the 22 FRS/GMRS frequencies plus additional frequencies that could be used in your area...there are a couple of frequencies at the upper end of the FRS/GMRS allocation that aren't actually being used (between GMRS 22 at 462.7250 and 467.5625), and they make for acceptable "private channels".

As I said earlier, I'm not in a position to have this programmed for you right now, but you'll need the above information to have them programmed. You can also use the following frequency allocation table to assist with programming of FRS/GMRS frequencies:


1 GMRS/FRS 462.5625
2 GMRS/FRS 462.5875
3 GMRS/FRS 462.6125
4 GMRS/FRS 462.6375
5 GMRS/FRS 462.6625
6 GMRS/FRS 462.6875
7 GMRS/FRS 462.7125
8 FRS 467.5625
9 FRS 467.5875
10 FRS 467.6125
11 FRS 467.6375
12 FRS 467.6625
13 FRS 467.6875
14 FRS 467.7125
15 GMRS 462.5500
16 A GMRS 462.5750
17 GMRS 462.6000
18 B GMRS 462.6250
19 GMRS 462.6500
20 C GMRS 462.6750
21 GMRS 462.7000
22 GMRS 462.7250

Note that although the model number lists the unit as Securenet capable, it likely has the encryption module either removed or disabled. If the module is present, you'll need a key injection module and if the unit loses power for more than a minute, you'll need to re-inject the keys.

More information here

[Blackthorne]

Key Loader Module I saw last went on Ebay for $350.

SecureNet modules run about $40 a pop if you can find them.


EDIT* - Oh and the Motorola software is about $650 after taxes.

Good luck

[Lerch]

Originally Posted by Blackthorne

Key Loader Module I saw last went on Ebay for $350.

SecureNet modules run about $40 a pop if you can find them.


EDIT* - Oh and the Motorola software is about $650 after taxes.

Good luck

True, but they'd just need one for the whole team, so depending on team size they could all just chip in a bit.

[militia]

Running it on FRS/GRMS frequencies would make it open to scaning, am i right? we have encountered opposing teams scaning frequencies, Thus why we want to go UHF and nothing beats real deal headsets.

Also you cant compare the 2, Ive had so many bad experience with FRS radios.

But thank you guys for your help so far. Anymore input is welcome as i would like to learn everything i can about these.

[redhawk_six]

Yes, if you're talking on frs/gmrs freq, anyone with a frs/gmrs would be able to hear you, and you them. However, if you have frs/gmrs freq programmed in, in addition to some 'uhf' freqs, you'll be able to communicate with other airsoft players on your side who do not have uhf radios, and if you need a secure channel, you just switch to a non-frs/gmrs channel. Trust me, it's very useful to have those channels on your radio, I used them all the time, as even with the avaliablity of cheap UHF these days, many players still use frs/gmrs. The other handy thing is that a 5 watt uhf can 'defeat' the privacy subchannels on a frs/gmrs radio, very useful for games where you're allowed to listen in on the enemy. I used mine for this task in the 'tacsits' milsims, and it was very useful.

[Fireboy]

If your looking to buy saber radios, you can fine them on ebay easy. Find the right seller and they will program whatever frequencies you want. NQA.

Thats how I landed my Saber R

There's my two bits!