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Old December 7th, 2007, 06:35   #1
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Question about JTF2 load out.

Dear all!

I checked many topics and photos about JTF2 or CSOR, I saw few pics of guy wearing Rav Paraclete in Ranger Green.
I'd be very interested in doing a jtf2 impression with a RRs-v in ranger green.
Is it possible and do you have some pics with this kind of configuration?

thanks a lot!
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Old December 7th, 2007, 08:03   #2
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The following is from "Canada's Secret Commandos" by david pugliese. Its a very good book detailing JTF2's past, and present, as well as training and other info. Highly recommend for you SF buffs. Here is a rough breakdown of the chapter about weapons and equipment.

JTF2 operators have two sets of equipment, for green and black ops. The green op is for SF missions and usually built around the C7 (canadian version of the M4), and the black for counter-terrorism or stealth built around the MP5 series. Each set is different from troop to troop depending on their personal preferences.
SUBMACHINE GUNS- around the H&K MP5 series, used because of the increased accuracy and reliability, and that 9mm bullets are easier to use. they are usually the MP-5A2 or 3, or the MP-5SD with the built in silencer.
HANDGUNS-the Sig Sauer line, as they are more reliable than the standard issue Browning pistol, thus allowing the operators to store a chambered round safely. Usually the P- 225, 226, 228, or 229.
RIFLES- Use of the C7, becuase its considered more reliable than the american made M16 (ya, we beat them). The shorter C8 is used, and the M203 is often added.
MACHINE GUNS- the C9 is used, and the General Perpose Machine Gun C6 is rumoured to be also used
SHOTGUNS- the remington 870 and the H&K Benelli Super 90.
SNIPERS- The canadian JTF2 have a wide variety of snipers available to them, and train with them extensivly. (the book also summarizs the mission in which a JTF2 operator took down a driver of a truck moving at an unknown speed... at 2.4 km, possibly a world record? this fact has been acknowledged by the the DoD). The .300 winchester magnum, .338 Lapua Magnum, Accuracy International AW sniper, PSG-1, McMillan .50, and M-82A1 Barrett .50 sniper.

JTF2 also uses a number of sanitized wepons, so basically an operator can be seen using a AK, Uzi, whatever.
they also make use of Surefire lights, CLAM, laser range finders,stun granades, and night vision.

hope this was of help. Check out the book its really good, as well the same author wrote about the roles of different countries SF in the war on terror, including the british SAS, SBS, austrailian SAS, german GSG-9, american delta, polish GROM, so on and so forth.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 08:12   #3
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Yup I saw this topic, I know the research function thanks!

I'm affraid you didn't answer to my question ,I didn't speak about weapons but 2nd line...
thanks anyway!!
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Old December 7th, 2007, 09:17   #4
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En gros? Ils utilisent ce qu'ils veulent selon les besoins.

Pour des raisons qui devraient etre evidentes, les photos sont rares.

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Old December 7th, 2007, 09:48   #5
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http://www.cansofcom.forces.gc.ca/en/jtf2Images_e.asp
a grand total of 4min searching through these forums while multitasking and talking to my wife on the phone.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 10:26   #6
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Old December 7th, 2007, 10:49   #7
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sorry double

A supprimer, merci.

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Old December 7th, 2007, 10:54   #8
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Je vous remercie tous pour vos interventions fort sympathiques ....ou pas, je connais tout ce que vous m'avez montré....

je pensais que en tant que canadiens et quebecquois ou ayant été dans des unités plus ou moins spécialisées vous auriez pu éclairer ma lanterne ou avoir plus de détails que moi .C'est pourquoi j'ai posé cette question sur votre forum sinon je serai resté sur les forums francais.
Je pensais qu'il existait un peu comme our les SF US, un kit du genre SFLCS utilisé par les CSOR ou JTF2...

Merci quand même....
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Old December 7th, 2007, 12:33   #9
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Je demeure a quelques kilometres de leur base, et c'est comme je le dit. Comme tout groupe tres secret, les photos sont rares et ils utilisent ce qu'ils veulent.
Parfois c'est de l'equipement identique aux forces regulieres, et parfois pas du tout.

Les images qui existent ont ete fortement verifiees et approuvees par le Ministere de la Defense. C'est comme les unitees tres speciales en France, je crois. Meme genre d'idee. Ils n'existent pas. On ne sait jamais ou ils sont dans le monde.

Ceux qui sont au courant ne peuvent en parler.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 13:01   #10
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I got several pictures at home from 2002 A-Stan.

And I can't even tell you what would be good because there's such mix of uniform and gear.

But in most of these pics, they have british All Arms vest sprayed with tan paint.

I could post 'em after work
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Old December 7th, 2007, 15:07   #11
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They wear what any specops group wears. Whatever works, nothing that doesn't. Doesn't matter how it looks, as long as it does the job.

A specops operator will look like a killer no matter what he's wearing. They just move different.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 15:19   #12
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Old December 7th, 2007, 15:34   #13
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If you need some genuine JFT2 badges, i can dig some up for you to complete the loadout. They are expensive however (~$20 per patch), due to difficulty to obtain them, but i have some connections.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 15:42   #14
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Teehee... 'genuine' JTF2 Patches
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Old December 7th, 2007, 15:44   #15
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I've been searching, but haven't been able to find those pics taken in Afghanistan in 2002. I remember seeing them in a big mix of winter whites, US woodland gortex, Brit DPM and a little bit of CADPAT.

Anyone have these pics?
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