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Old December 11th, 2006, 17:42   #1
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Question KSC Glock 23; Full Auto Problem?

I just bought my first airsoft gun 2 days ago, its a KSC Glock 23F. I tried firing it in semi and full auto(burst only, 4-6 bb's) and evrything was great. But when i tried to fire the whole magazine 23 rounds in full auto without letting go of the trigger all of the gas in my mag just leaked continously after firing about 8-10 bb's. Then I refilled my mag immediately with 134a gas and tried firing it again but the bb's started to just fall out of the barrel(but still with blow back action). Being scared and confused thinking that the 134a gas froze something inside the gun I Lay off of it for around 10 mins. After that I tried firing it again in semi and full auto(burst only) and everything was back to normal.
Just want to know if there's is a problem with the gun or if it's a factory deffect or something is broken or if its normal to GBB pistols. :banghead:
I apreciate all the help, explanations or tips that I can get. Thank You!

And can somone help me find stores where I can find KSC Glock23 upgrades/accessories like metal slides, metal outer barrel, recoil spring, rocket valve, extended mag, suppressor, scope rail etc., HERE IN JAPAN. Thank You! Recomendations please!
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Old December 11th, 2006, 18:03   #2
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You probably busted the floating rocket valve or whatever its called.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 03:40   #3
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Wrong Accussations; but still needs help!

I'm not an idiot and I'm not a Japanese. I'm a newbie and I'm from the Philippines, I've been stayin here in japan for almost a year now. I was sent here by the company that I'm workin with in Manila. My KSC G23 is my first GBB or should I say my first airsoft gun. I've been trying to research about my gun for the past three days now in the internet, and i saw that a lot of GBB questions/problems were answered in airsoft canada forums that's why I registered in and tried to post a thread hoping to get answers/solutions to my problem. I don't even know where to post my problems properly. I'm just tryin to get answers, solutions and/recommendations. So please if anyone can help it'll be deeply appreciated!!
I only speak very basic japanese words and i do not know much about where to go here i Japan and buy those stuff that I mentiond (which I only knew because of researching). The only place that I know is TAM-TAM hobby shop that's where I bought my gun. The reason that I'm askin for places where to buy those stuff is because I'am not able to order thru the internet because I don't use credit card. I REALLY need help here guys! THANK YOU!!!
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Old December 12th, 2006, 03:57   #4
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Here let me help you. Contact this person Aquamarine. He lives in Japan and frequents here alot. He may help you souce out the item you may need in Japan.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 04:01   #5
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Guys forget the where to find questions. pls help on the full auto problem. Thank You!
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Old December 12th, 2006, 17:53   #6
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SilverBullet go to filairsoft.com. Once your there try Pm'ng any member of Team PAIN which is a Filipino airsoft team based in Japan and there you will find your answer to your questions regarding airsoft. Peace Kabayan.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 02:29   #7
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Sounds like a problem of severe cooldown as you mentioned trying to fire off a full mag in one burst, or it could be a problem with the floating valve. But, since you tested it again afterwards and all was fine, it was just the cooldown effect, and not a broken floating valve.

Although, it wouldn't hurt to take a look at the floating valve through the port hole where the gas mag mates with the blowback chamber.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 01:59   #8
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Kabayan Thank you so much!!! I'll try registering with filairsoft today and look for team pain as you have suggested. Really feels nice to get answers from a kapwa Filipino! More power to you and more power to your guns pare!!! Thanks!
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Old December 14th, 2006, 02:08   #9
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WhatTheWho,
If the cooldown effect is caused by cold weather condition, I guess that is the problem. Its like 4-5 deg celsius now here in Japan. Do I have other options or I just have to wait for the summer season? Is it okay to replace the stock rocket valve with metal but not changing the rocket valve spring? Thanks so much for the info dude!!!
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Old December 14th, 2006, 04:11   #10
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damage thanks a lot for the info! i've contacted the team leader of team PAIN JAPAN already and Iam now a member and be meeting other members soon. More Power!
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damage thanks a lot for the info! i've contacted the team leader of team PAIN JAPAN already and Iam now a member and be meeting other members soon. More Power!
Thats good to hear. Just drop me a PM anytime. Peace!
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Old December 15th, 2006, 03:29   #12
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Yes, it's safe to switch out just the rocket valve without upgrading the spring as well.

The cooldown is also caused my firing off lots of rounds within a short span of time; as the gas in the mag expands, the temp drops. That's when you'll start losing power to fire or cycle your gun due to pressure loss.
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Old April 16th, 2007, 01:12   #13
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Rocket Valve

Hey, I've got a Glock 23f too, and I had the same problem.
You've got to get a new rocket valve, but don't just get another replacement KSC plastic one... get a metal one.
I ordered mine from http://www.wgcshop.com/ ... just type in Rocket Valve in the search bar and you'll find it (Firefly Rocket Valve for KSC G17 / G18C / G34) Don't worry that Glock 23F isn't listed there... it fits perfectly, and it should do the trick.
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