KWA MP7 - Outdoor skirmishable as primary?

hollywood... · June 26th, 2013, 12:26

love this gun so much that I bought a second one so I would have a back up - My WE M4's are all getting dusty as a result

mzo · June 26th, 2013, 12:55

I have the KWA MP7 and I have no plans of selling it.

I also have a question which I think is appropriate for this thread, I want to get a suppressor for my MP7 so I can run it outdoors.

Angry Gun suppressors costs $100, while 5KU suppressors cost $50. Is the Angry Gun really that much better than the 5KU to be worth twice as much?
Anyone have any experience and/or recommendations about either suppressor?

hollywood... · June 26th, 2013, 12:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mzo

I have the KWA MP7 and I have no plans of selling it.

I also have a question which I think is appropriate for this thread, I want to get a suppressor for my MP7 so I can run it outdoors.

Angry Gun suppressors costs $100, while 5KU suppressors cost $50. Is the Angry Gun really that much better than the 5KU to be worth twice as much?
Anyone have any experience and/or recommendations about either suppressor?

the accuracy of the Angry Gun Suppressor alone is worth the extra $

and you get a boost in FPS which punches BB's through the bush

K3vX · June 26th, 2013, 13:12

My understanding is that for 50$ more, you have an inner barrel on the Angry Gun one, which means it "extends" your inner barrel, resulting in a gain in FPS and a gain in accuracy.

The 5KU one is for looks. It can cover an extended inner barrel if you change the MP7's factory one, but does not offer any advantages alone.

Danke · June 26th, 2013, 14:02

With a short TB my MP7 is perfect. I can hang a mock suppressor on it or after dark a tracer unit. That takes it to a new level.

For the 5KU question I suspect it's like all airsoft gear that's a copy of other airsoft gear but half the price. You may get a bargain or you may get a heap of junk.

lurkingknight · June 26th, 2013, 14:11

5ku has no inner barrel extension.

there are reports of the angry gun supressor damaging the hopup unit with repeated put on and take off cycles since the barrel extension butts up against the existing inner barrel, when you mount it it nudges the inner so repeated nudging can probably produce some unwanted wear and tear at the hopup end.

Hectic · June 26th, 2013, 14:12

I hear the angry guns inner is a slightly different size from the stock barrel but it doesnt negatively effect accuracy or fps.
But i also hear that the extended inner pushes on the stock inner and over time can cause damage to the barrel and/or hop up unit.

Edit im too slow lol

Stealth · June 26th, 2013, 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by K3vX

I figured I'd post my question here:

Is there any particular reason everyone and their mothers are reselling their KWA Mp7? Even Stealth is selling a kit on the classifieds.

I was shopping for one, but this made me wondering..

I've no doubt it's a good gbb, but I swear half the Gaz Classifieds is filled with Mp7's...

I wouldn't be selling my MP7 if my AEGs weren't so beastly.

lurkingknight · June 26th, 2013, 15:04

if you ever want to split that package up... lol I need me a couple more mags and that suppressor :P

I would like to note that as beastly as my p90 is, my mp7 did scare off a squad at nightfall2.

K3vX · June 26th, 2013, 17:41

I was lurking that package as well... just need to convince (someone) that I "need" it. For um... science.

I also need some stuff from AirsoftStore, maybe I could merge the shipping...

Manvil · June 26th, 2013, 23:30

i'd advise against the surpressor with inner. It doesnt line up well. if you really want the extra length get the cheap surpressor and longer inner barrel to extend the full length, but then you'll have to extend an npas adjustment tool or disassemble and set the fps.

lurkingknight · June 27th, 2013, 04:55

to give you an idea of what you could be dealing with fps wise, cqb bolt will probably shoot 400 with a full supressor length barrel... it already shoots 360 in 25C sunlight at stock length.

Don't even try the stock bolt with full barrel lol....shooting 450 in the same conditions with just the regular barrel.

the npas is a pain in the ass to adjust so I went 2 separate bolts.

mrdzicc · June 27th, 2013, 05:18

I bought the 5KU MP7 suppressor and I'm heavily surprised by it. Its a solid suppressor with a nice quick detach. Its quite stiff but can be adjusted. The only thing I dunno about is how good the foam is (if you actually want to help suppress a bit of sound). It also has full (i believe) trades if thats your thing as well. I added a tight bore so thats why I didn't go with the angry gun

mzo · June 27th, 2013, 17:10

Thanks for the replies guys,

As soon as I got my MP7, I had the NPAS and a better hop up rubber installed on it.

With .25 BBs it currently fires around 300 FPS for the first 5-10 shots and around 285 FPS for the rest of the shots. This is at about room temperature or just slightly below.

I ordered the Angry Gun suppressor and plan on attaching for outdoor games. This way I can make the MP7 my primary for indoors (without suppressor) and also my primary for most outdoor events (with suppressor).

If (or when) the inner barrel becomes damaged, then I will replace the inner barrel with longer tight bore inner barrel and cover it up with mock suppressors, making it my outdoor primary. I would then get something else for indoors, maybe a MP9.

Cornf1ake · September 11th, 2013, 12:56

I just took my orange tip off as I bought a 5KU MP7 Silencer. That thing was really on there. Makes the gun look really nice without it and the silencer on it. Is it possible to shoot the MP7 with the silencer attached though, or do I need to get an extended barrel to shoot it?

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June 26th, 2013, 12:26	#76
hollywood... cranky old man Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In a Van,.... Down by the River!	love this gun so much that I bought a second one so I would have a back up - My WE M4's are all getting dusty as a result __________________ MODT - tu fui ego eris

June 26th, 2013, 12:55	#77
mzo Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Thornhill, Ontario	I have the KWA MP7 and I have no plans of selling it. I also have a question which I think is appropriate for this thread, I want to get a suppressor for my MP7 so I can run it outdoors. Angry Gun suppressors costs $100, while 5KU suppressors cost $50. Is the Angry Gun really that much better than the 5KU to be worth twice as much? Anyone have any experience and/or recommendations about either suppressor? __________________ A Canadian is someone who knows how to make love in a canoe - Pierre Berton

June 26th, 2013, 14:02	#80
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	With a short TB my MP7 is perfect. I can hang a mock suppressor on it or after dark a tracer unit. That takes it to a new level. For the 5KU question I suspect it's like all airsoft gear that's a copy of other airsoft gear but half the price. You may get a bargain or you may get a heap of junk. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

June 26th, 2013, 13:12	#79
K3vX Trader rating Join Date: May 2012 Location: Quebec City	My understanding is that for 50$ more, you have an inner barrel on the Angry Gun one, which means it "extends" your inner barrel, resulting in a gain in FPS and a gain in accuracy. The 5KU one is for looks. It can cover an extended inner barrel if you change the MP7's factory one, but does not offer any advantages alone.

June 26th, 2013, 14:11	#81
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	5ku has no inner barrel extension. there are reports of the angry gun supressor damaging the hopup unit with repeated put on and take off cycles since the barrel extension butts up against the existing inner barrel, when you mount it it nudges the inner so repeated nudging can probably produce some unwanted wear and tear at the hopup end. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

June 26th, 2013, 15:04	#84
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	if you ever want to split that package up... lol I need me a couple more mags and that suppressor :P I would like to note that as beastly as my p90 is, my mp7 did scare off a squad at nightfall2. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

June 26th, 2013, 17:41	#85
K3vX Trader rating Join Date: May 2012 Location: Quebec City	I was lurking that package as well... just need to convince (someone) that I "need" it. For um... science. I also need some stuff from AirsoftStore, maybe I could merge the shipping...

June 26th, 2013, 23:30	#86
Manvil Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario	i'd advise against the surpressor with inner. It doesnt line up well. if you really want the extra length get the cheap surpressor and longer inner barrel to extend the full length, but then you'll have to extend an npas adjustment tool or disassemble and set the fps. __________________ "Amateurs train to success, professionals train to failure." -C.C.

June 27th, 2013, 04:55	#87
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	to give you an idea of what you could be dealing with fps wise, cqb bolt will probably shoot 400 with a full supressor length barrel... it already shoots 360 in 25C sunlight at stock length. Don't even try the stock bolt with full barrel lol....shooting 450 in the same conditions with just the regular barrel. the npas is a pain in the ass to adjust so I went 2 separate bolts. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

June 27th, 2013, 05:18	#88
mrdzicc Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Edmonton, AB	I bought the 5KU MP7 suppressor and I'm heavily surprised by it. Its a solid suppressor with a nice quick detach. Its quite stiff but can be adjusted. The only thing I dunno about is how good the foam is (if you actually want to help suppress a bit of sound). It also has full (i believe) trades if thats your thing as well. I added a tight bore so thats why I didn't go with the angry gun

June 27th, 2013, 17:10	#89
mzo Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Thornhill, Ontario	Thanks for the replies guys, As soon as I got my MP7, I had the NPAS and a better hop up rubber installed on it. With .25 BBs it currently fires around 300 FPS for the first 5-10 shots and around 285 FPS for the rest of the shots. This is at about room temperature or just slightly below. I ordered the Angry Gun suppressor and plan on attaching for outdoor games. This way I can make the MP7 my primary for indoors (without suppressor) and also my primary for most outdoor events (with suppressor). If (or when) the inner barrel becomes damaged, then I will replace the inner barrel with longer tight bore inner barrel and cover it up with mock suppressors, making it my outdoor primary. I would then get something else for indoors, maybe a MP9. __________________ A Canadian is someone who knows how to make love in a canoe - Pierre Berton

September 11th, 2013, 12:56	#90
Cornf1ake Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Guelph	I just took my orange tip off as I bought a 5KU MP7 Silencer. That thing was really on there. Makes the gun look really nice without it and the silencer on it. Is it possible to shoot the MP7 with the silencer attached though, or do I need to get an extended barrel to shoot it?

KWA MP7 - Outdoor skirmishable as primary?

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