Question on FPS?

[Dracheous]

Originally Posted by Ibby

Just to play Devil's Advocate here, does this mean I could crank my sniper rifle up to 600 or 700 fps? Because, you know, milsim being a military simulation, I want the added realism of being able to make a long range shot, just like the real steel counterpart could.

hehehehehehehe if I buy a VFC M82A1, can I crank it up to 1200-1300 FPS? PLEASE!

[Death March]

Some were in this post someone mentioned a Sniper shooting an Airsoft unit at 550 or so fps,thats a firearm is it not? Don't get cought with that Beast,thats at the point where your looking to hurt somebody! That should concern us far more than the LMG issue.I know there were certain people that where shooting 470fps.with .20's,but using Alum. BB's.So that might drop it down to 410-420 with Alum.'s,let's just play with BB gun already lol,and they are in the MAA! I'd be pissed if I was rounded with one of thoes lol!

[ThunderCactus]

sure, your only hitting me once, I wouldn't mind, but i don't have any sway over sniper rules.
and Dracheous, your point is invalid. There are british 3 man recon teams that consist of a spotter, an M249 and an M240.
I don't care if im fighting a 6 man team of 6 LMGs, so long as they use them in a realistic manner and not as a flamethrower with an ammo hack.

and i keep telling you guys, whats the big deal?? your still shooting 350fps!
I was checking out my friends VSR-11, thing shoots 450 fps, has maybe 2/3 the range of my G3 that shoots a mere 365fps.
I saw two guys with CA M15A4CQB's with stock springs shooting at me at my maximum range with the most incredible grouping i've ever seen.
Your not losing any performance unless you have no idea what your doing when your upgrading.

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

and i keep telling you guys, whats the big deal??

Exactly. So why bother making the rules different?

[Dracheous]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

and i keep telling you guys, whats the big deal?? your still shooting 350fps!
I was checking out my friends VSR-11, thing shoots 450 fps, has maybe 2/3 the range of my G3 that shoots a mere 365fps.

Exactly, so if the FPS is still the same all around, then what is the big deal? Why are you going to limit one AEG over an other when in the real world they're using the same round. An M16 will not shoot farther than an M249, because it is the same bullet, just has a tighter grouping((Okay might be some range affected from barrel length)). By the logic you have on MILSIM, we would have to start making FPS limits by caliber the gun imitates.


FPS on the gun isn't where the rules need to be made on Support Weapons, its rules on the use. And as for the VSR versus the G3, many things come into play, the barrel length for one. But since your argument would suggest that FPS and accuracy are not affected by one another, how does the FPS rules really affect the game play on the Support gun? They still have 10,000 rounds to waste on your butt :P.

[Death March]

I think as we try to make Airsoft into a legitimate sport or hobbie we should have the same rules accross Canada on fps,then no matter where you play if you go visit someone at some point and decide to go for a game in that Prov.you don't have to learn new rules,your good to go and if you'v brought your gun's with you you don't have tobe worried about if your unit will be allowed on there gamimg area giving a more positive experience for all travling around Canada,as we can't go stateside and vice versa lol ! I think that'd be away to go,Cheers!

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by Death March

I think as we try to make Airsoft into a legitimate sport or hobbie we should have the same rules accross Canada on fps...

This might be harder to do than you expect. Canada's got all sorts of different terrain that contributes to how the game is played. In BC the local sniper rifle limit is 500 fps. Some say that's high, but at the fields that have this rule there is very little underbrush, so making a long shot is much easier to do. Here in Ontario I had to crank my gun down to 450, as there's more brush and less chance of making a long shot. And trust me, the 50 fps makes a huge difference when you're trying for a one shot kill with a heavy BB.

[Death March]

Hey Ibby,I don't dissagree in the least,But the whole going to 500 plus to me is alittle much as it now would become something you have to register as a Firearm would it not,I just don't think we need to fight with authorities anymore than we already have too lol.I completly understand,yes the extra 50 fps does make a huge difference at long rang! Not to gain distance,but with all the gear we wear when we play it's hard to feel a hit at long rang with a stock TM or CA.I know theres been times I'v had to wait and hear if it hit me as I don't alway's feel it if I get shot on a thicker part of the vest! As far as we'v seen playing here,400 fps is more than enough to play with,without seriously hurtting someone.Thats my personal "Big thing" I don't want people to get hurt and say well we'll never play that agin lol.Theres has to be a common ground to work on don't ya think,Cheers man!

[Cortexburn]

Originally Posted by Death March

But the whole going to 500 plus to me is alittle much as it now would become something you have to register as a Firearm would it not

no

[Death March]

No! No disrespect,But could you elaborate alittle on this as thats what I'v seen floatting around regarding this (info wise I meen!),Please &thanks!

[ThunderCactus]

i think firearm was 550, and in BC it makes sense since your engagement range is usually your maximum range.

[Cortexburn]

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...ps+legal+limit

It's been asked...ALOT....hence my short answer. That said, for snipers....500fps is a good start. A sniper should have a distinct distance advantage IMO or the person is just a handicapped rifleman.

Our field allows over 500fps guns but we only allow those players we trust to use such.

[Death March]

It's been asked...ALOT....hence my short answer. That said, for snipers....500fps is a good start. A sniper should have a distinct distance advantage IMO or the person is just a handicapped rifleman.

Our field allows over 500fps guns but we only allow those players we trust to use such.
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Thanks! it still seems in that some what "Grey" area to me,like spliting hairs! What I meen is that the Law being talked about are for more like typical Firearms that "Joe blow" is use to seeing,but as soo as you cross the whole Prohibited devices arena that seems alittle,um eek,lol! It might be enough for them just to charge you anyway lol.I might just ask my Wife and see if she can find that out at her work (Manitoba Prosecutions) we'll see,i don't want to shine any negative light on the Hobbie/sport if I don't have to draw any attention to it.But I do thank you for the reply,Cheers!

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by Death March

...But the whole going to 500 plus to me is alittle much as it now would become something you have to register as a Firearm would it not...

No, you wouldn't. There's 2 parts to that ruling. The part most folks don't get is that the projectile must carry a certain energy. Airsoft BBs don't come close to the requirement, so there's no registration necessary.

*edit: Crap, for some reason my browser didn't show the other responses. Oh well. Time for a new computer.

[Death March]

Thats cool thanks for the clarification,but you realy don't think a common fps set of rules would work? Like I was saying it may go along way too help us all out i.e. Playing in other areas through out Canada and with the legal aspect? It seems most Teams/clubs are not far off the mark anyway? Cheers!