Looking to make the most powerful KSC G26, HELP.....

[Donster]

Originally Posted by MikeMcNair

are there suggestions for weight? like, a .43 is better than a .89 etc? also, i was under the impression that the heavier bb's would slow things down, but you guys feel it will speed things up?

thanks again for all of your help!! the gun is stuck in customs (has been for 2 days :worried) but i ordered the 6.01 PDI inner barrel and airsoft surgeon floating valve. next is a hammer spring if i can find one in stock somewhere.

heavier bbs will increase your effective range. in that, you can hit your targets with a higher degree of probability and accuracy then normal. however, your total range will decrease. Here is an example using totally ficticious numbers, but to give you some idea of what i am talking about.

say an upgrade M14 shoots 400fps with a .20g bb

with a .20g bb, say you have a range of 200ft, but your accuracy will be shit. easily affected by wind. lets say that at 150ft, you have a grouping of 1ft.

with a .28g bb in the same gun, your range might drop to 150ft, but your grouping will be say 6" or so. the velocity will probably be around 330fps or so. so overall, your accuracy will be better.

im sure i screwed up explaining it. there are better people who can explain it than me, but that is my understanding of using heavier bbs.

[MikeMcNair]

that makes sense to me. so basically, it is a matter of use/expected range that will dictate the weight.

well, i will use this for plinking, and short range firing, but want the MOST FORCE, so i would say a medium weight would be good for me. problem is, i don't know what that weight is.

also, just ordered the Guarder Hammer Spring. so here is the list as of now.....


UN Custom-KSC G26 Metal Version
-KSC G26 Based
-KSC G26 Metal Slide Installed
-Hi-Flow Valve Installed
-Strengthen Recoil Spring Installed
-Tuned For Top Gas
-Airsoft Surgeon Power-Up Floating Valve
-PDI 6.01 Precision Inner Barrel
-Guarder Enhanced Hammer Spring

what else should i add to the list? let's make this thing NUTS!!!!

[Donster]

if you want the most force, then heavy weight bbs would be best. considering you want your gun to shoot around 400fps, if you actually get it there, .30g bbs minimum (i recommend KSC perfects since you're in teh states). if you want heavier, then get some Madbulls, but wash off the oil that is on them.

[MikeMcNair]

awesome, i will look for .30's then, thanks!!!!

[Tex]

http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...ch_ksc%20glock

http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...ch_ksc%20glock

you will also want steel or enhanced parts 94, 19, 8, 87-(if you can't find steel #87 buy a couple stock ones they will break)
and an aftermarket piston head (part #27) the one for KSC glock 17/18/19 will work on your 26.

[Crunchmeister]

I fire .30g in all my pistols. Awesome range and stability. My pistols all shoot 300-320 with .2, so the extra weight slows them down signficantly, but I don't mind it at all.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

heavier bbs will increase your effective range. in that, you can hit your targets with a higher degree of probability and accuracy then normal. however, your total range will decrease. Here is an example using totally ficticious numbers, but to give you some idea of what i am talking about.

say an upgrade M14 shoots 400fps with a .20g bb

with a .20g bb, say you have a range of 200ft, but your accuracy will be shit. easily affected by wind. lets say that at 150ft, you have a grouping of 1ft.

with a .28g bb in the same gun, your range might drop to 150ft, but your grouping will be say 6" or so. the velocity will probably be around 330fps or so. so overall, your accuracy will be better.

im sure i screwed up explaining it. there are better people who can explain it than me, but that is my understanding of using heavier bbs.

How much heavy BB's affects FPS is completely different for gas guns. They keep a lot more of their FPS because of gas expansion.

The longer the BB is in the barrel (heavier BB) the longer the gas has to expand and impart more energy on the BB.

Case in point:
My AUG shoots 390-400 on 0.20g, and 330 on 0.28g
The P229 I had shot 270 on 0.20g and 260 on 0.28g
My Hicapa shoots 330-340 on 0.20g and 300 on 0.28g

A lot less loss of speed (10FPS for the P229!) than AEG's.

[Amos]

Get an extended tightbore barrel and hide it in a silencer, that's how you'll make most of your FPS.

[MikeMcNair]

Thanks bro, but i am trying to stay away from that setup. just a personal preference.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by MikeMcNair

Thanks bro, but i am trying to stay away from that setup. just a personal preference.

The perhaps you should choose a longer barreled gun... It's going to be hard to reach high FPS with such a short barreled pistol.

[Tex]

even if he does not hit his goal FPS who cares he will have a gun he likes with every upgrade you can do to it. I would rather see what he gets out of such a small gun then see him just give up and move on to a hi-capa

[MikeMcNair]

Originally Posted by Tex

even if he does not hit his goal FPS who cares he will have a gun he likes with every upgrade you can do to it. I would rather see what he gets out of such a small gun then see him just give up and move on to a hi-capa

thanks Tex, i just ordered a few more goodies for this little sucker.....

here is the current list....


UN Custom-KSC G26 Metal Version
-KSC G26 Based
-KSC G26 Metal Slide Installed
-Hi-Flow Valve Installed
-Strengthen Recoil Spring Installed
-Tuned For Top Gas
-Airsoft Surgeon Power-Up Floating Valve
-PDI 6.01 Precision Inner Barrel
-Guarder Enhanced Hammer Spring
-Guarder Enhanced Piston Lid
-Shooters Design Steel Impact Hammer
-Guarder Magazine Catch for KSC Glock
-Shooters Design Reinforced Part 10 for KSC Glock

i am still looking for more modifications, and am open to suggestion.

i was turned on to the following, so i have to look for them as well.....

HID-PT-SC17H HIDAKAYA Reinforced Hammer for KSC G17 / G34 / G26 is the enhanced part for 94.

FIF-PT-G17TB Firefly Reinforced Touch Breach for KSC G17 / G34 is the enhanced part foe 19.

[MikeMcNair]

Originally Posted by Amos

The perhaps you should choose a longer barreled gun... It's going to be hard to reach high FPS with such a short barreled pistol.

oh, just saw this post, and i totally agree, but i like the challenge. i do weird stuff, and modify the hell out of things that others might find useless to do, but i have fun with it. plus, it would be cool to know i have the highest FPS KSC with a 1" barrel (it seams that short, lol)

[Amos]

Originally Posted by MikeMcNair

oh, just saw this post, and i totally agree, but i like the challenge. i do weird stuff, and modify the hell out of things that others might find useless to do, but i have fun with it. plus, it would be cool to know i have the highest FPS KSC with a 1" barrel (it seams that short, lol)

Lol

I still want to see a hicapa with a 554mm PDI 6.01 VSR-10 barrel.

[surebet]

Pretty sure the BB wouldn't even exit the barrel, the gas will start to compress after a certain volume