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Old October 29th, 2008, 20:32   #31
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As long as it is proven functional,they'll let you wear it?.I'm up to
six mag pouches plus holster and standard issue kit on my pat 82.
I might re up if they allow that.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 01:24   #32
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As long as it is proven functional,they'll let you wear it?.

Pretty; atleast in my unit. An plus 82 pat is issued kit so they can't really say no to that.

Before we went on tour our CO an RSM came up with a list of authorized chest rigs an tac vests, etc. But overseas when you are outside the wire aslong as you got good kit that isn't gonna break on you and you look Canadian it's good to go.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 04:59   #33
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Pretty; atleast in my unit. An plus 82 pat is issued kit so they can't really say no to that.

Before we went on tour our CO an RSM came up with a list of authorized chest rigs an tac vests, etc. But overseas when you are outside the wire aslong as you got good kit that isn't gonna break on you and you look Canadian it's good to go.
So it needs a tactical beer bottle opener?

But thats cool that they let you wear what you want. Must it be cadpat only? Or black/green is good?
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Old October 30th, 2008, 09:37   #34
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But thats cool that they let you wear what you want. Must it be cadpat only? Or black/green is good?
Coyote, Ranger Green, Cadpat, Marpat.

Most guys I deal with want plain coyote.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 13:05   #35
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in my personal experience it depends on your bosses. here our bosses are really strict and we cant wear thaose fancy chest rigs has to 100% current issue equipment sometimes you can hide it though and get away with wearing a good vest every so often...lol
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Old October 30th, 2008, 16:18   #36
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Yeah I've heard much the same. The Patricias seem to get alot of leeway with kit, but I heard the last Vandoo roto was issued kit only, right down to that ultra-crappy pistol holster.
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Yeah I've heard much the same. The Patricias seem to get alot of leeway with kit, but I heard the last Vandoo roto was issued kit only, right down to that ultra-crappy pistol holster.
Yea an when my unit replaced the Vandoos the JTFA commander(Commander of Canadian Forces in Afghanistan) tried to make us wear only issue kit an yea our CO an RSM talked sense into him an he allowed the Battle Group to wear what they wanted. The Strats were strict on themselves though an they had to wear the tac vest, some guys wore their own rig but majority wore the tac vest an I think the same with the 12 RBC guys.
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Old October 30th, 2008, 22:47   #38
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1 RCHA was strict with kit as well over there on 1-08. But my TSM was good shit, he let us wear some non-issue gear over there. Just depends on who your bosses are.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 00:41   #39
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my brother was with the 12RBC, and from the pics he took, the only thing they were wearing was issued to them.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 03:29   #40
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I would look into how the winds are blowing for non issue kit and the past experiences of your particular unit you're going to be deploying with. I've found that as a general rule most combat arms trades allow the use of non issue kit. I know that 3 RCR has given a list of guidelines as to what is acceptable. I'm in a Force Protection platoon and guys are using the HSGI Warlord V4, Blackhawk, 5.11 etc. I use a Tactical Tailor plate carrier with side upgrades and a mishmash of TT and ESSTAC pouches.
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I would look into how the winds are blowing for non issue kit and the past experiences of your particular unit you're going to be deploying with. I've found that as a general rule most combat arms trades allow the use of non issue kit. I know that 3 RCR has given a list of guidelines as to what is acceptable. I'm in a Force Protection platoon and guys are using the HSGI Warlord V4, Blackhawk, 5.11 etc. I use a Tactical Tailor plate carrier with side upgrades and a mishmash of TT and ESSTAC pouches.

Guys in Force Protection are wearing non-issue kit?

On my tour NSE was pretty strict on issue kit only. Only non-issue holsters were allowed.
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Old November 1st, 2008, 07:41   #42
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Guys in Force Protection are wearing non-issue kit?

On my tour NSE was pretty strict on issue kit only. Only non-issue holsters were allowed.
I know. It was iffy at first whether or not we'd be allowed, and we didn't really know up till deployment. As you said, holster were never an issue. Most of the truckers and maintainers still only use issue stuff, which suits them just fine. The beauty about NSE is that with every tour it's pretty much a brand new organization. My platoon commander goes to bat for us as well...so while we're under NSE, no LOG guy really knows what to say to a bunch of infantry guys as to what they should and shouldn't do.
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Old November 1st, 2008, 21:25   #43
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I know. It was iffy at first whether or not we'd be allowed, and we didn't really know up till deployment. As you said, holster were never an issue. Most of the truckers and maintainers still only use issue stuff, which suits them just fine. The beauty about NSE is that with every tour it's pretty much a brand new organization. My platoon commander goes to bat for us as well...so while we're under NSE, no LOG guy really knows what to say to a bunch of infantry guys as to what they should and shouldn't do.

When CCP comes around, its the guns I'm looking at. Fuckers get everything.

But ya, they also have some gucci kit. I'm 1RCR, new RSM and CO just moved in to prep the BG for 110, so we have no idea what were gonna be allowed. Right now, Christmas is comming and I can at least get something that I can hope to wear.

Again, I'm also a driver, so I'm hoping I'm not stuck in the hatch the whole time, but who knows.

Oh ya, and I'm hoping for a shotty (Breacher Up!), so I need shell holders too.
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Oh ya, and I'm hoping for a shotty (Breacher Up!), so I need shell holders too.
If you're primary task is going to be a driver don't count on getting anything other than a rifle.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 19:02   #45
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Oh ya, and I'm hoping for a shotty (Breacher Up!), so I need shell holders too.
You're starting to remind me of this cartoon:



You can have a rig that's setup for a shotgun, but chances are you'll never get one. Hell, you can have a rig setup for 10 mags, but that doesn't mean you're going to get 10-12 mags. You can have a rig that'll carry everything and the kitchen sink, but as a driver, you probably won't need that much. Listen to what the BTDT's like mike are saying. Something simple, like webbing, that you can toss on and off quickly.

Quite frankly, why spend a fortune on gucci kit, why not just use 82 pat webbing with a few added pouches?
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