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Old November 1st, 2009, 20:54   #16
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@Coachster: If you've neen AI's work, then you've somehow got the proof that is possible
I have and am patiently waiting for Carl to pump these out. I know it can be done but Carl's been working on this forever. Just like the Tornado's.

But nerf rockets with air filled bags won't cut it.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 20:59   #17
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I have and am patiently waiting for Carl to pump these out. I know it can be done but Carl's been working on this forever. Just like the Tornado's.

But nerf rockets with air filled bags won't cut it.
I will try it anyway, I guess I will se how a prototype works as soon as I have all the materials sorted out.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 21:01   #18
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I'd simply use a mini airbomb as a warhead with a switch in the grenade cone to detonate the mini airbomb on impact with the electric detonator sitting right in the charge for no delay. You'd have to lunch the whole thing with a 9v batterie in it, so the cone would have to be soft enough not to cause injury.

I'm pretty sure it would be light enough to be lunched out of a low velocity compressed air modified M203.

A couple of years ago, we made some testing using hobby rocket motors and black poweder. The warhead was at the time inert or paintball for marking and testing purpose. It was promising.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 21:05   #19
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I'd simply use a mini airbomb as a warhead with a switch in the grenade cone to detonate the mini airbomb on impact with the electric detonator sitting right in the charge for no delay. You'd have to lunch the whole thing with a 9v batterie in it, so the cone would have to be soft enough not to cause injury.

I'm pretty sure it would be light enough to be lunched out of a low velocity compressed air modified M203.

A couple of years ago, we made some testing using hobby rocket motors and black poweder. The warhead was at the time inert or paintball for marking and testing purpose. It was promising.
Or in place of a cumbersome electric system use a simple cap. I don't want to use pyros because they are not allowed on most fields, not to mention they are dangerous and unpredictable.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 21:42   #20
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Sorry, from the pictures and your description i thought it was going to be a solid rubber nose, but if the rear peices where the bbs depoly are metal, wont the grendae swing around to face backwards?
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 00:12   #21
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Sorry, from the pictures and your description i thought it was going to be a solid rubber nose, but if the rear peices where the bbs depoly are metal, wont the grendae swing around to face backwards?
No the places where the bbs sit will be rubber or foam as wall simply friction fitted with bbs. But your right that would totally screw up the weight distribution.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 00:42   #22
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I have seen this and think it shows great promise However the AI grenade requires propane to operate thus will have a great deal more wight. Increased weight = decreased velocity for safeties sake.
The weight of propane is negligible.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 00:46   #23
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but the weight of a container strong enough to hold liquid propane and compact enough to be in a launched grenade is not.
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but the weight of a container strong enough to hold liquid propane and compact enough to be in a launched grenade is not.
Thank you tuna, you took the words from my mouth.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 02:53   #25
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you'd be better off using foam and plastic/metal inside, similar to the foam used on nerf rockets for the canister/gas housing you'd need to use a rubber tube with a plastic tube inside of that to insert a 12g co2 canister. Rubber could fucking hurt someone depending on velocity it is launched at/weight etc
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Anyone actually consider the need to retreive the grenade? I garuntee in 90% of the outdoor fields, once you launch one, you can kiss your investment goodbye. The last thing i need is to worry about is remembering what area i shot my 40mm in when im in the middle of a firefight.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 11:41   #27
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Anyone actually consider the need to retreive the grenade? I garuntee in 90% of the outdoor fields, once you launch one, you can kiss your investment goodbye. The last thing i need is to worry about is remembering what area i shot my 40mm in when im in the middle of a firefight.
yeah. I did but didn't post. it's the same with trying to use Tornado's outdoors but worse because you have to go further to search for it.

same deal with plain old nerf rockets. I have 9 x 2", non-howlers, nerf rockets but I've yet to take them onto the field. now if I can source a metal tube to use as a mortar which I can drop both the nade and rocket in at the same time, then heck ya, I'd use them all the time. hahaha
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 11:49   #28
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Loosing Grenades

I don't see this as an issue..

They are only really useful to toss into an enclosed area.. which you will immediatly go in to to mop up ..

Make certain everyone is dead... pick up your expended grenade.. and move on
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 11:55   #29
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I don't see this as an issue..

They are only really useful to toss into an enclosed area.. which you will immediatly go in to to mop up ..

Make certain everyone is dead... pick up your expended grenade.. and move on
Lol, forgetting Z4 Brian? XD
The amount of nades we chewed through in every direction while on the run, Duckman would be still be crying for the next few weeks.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 12:15   #30
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Lol, forgetting Z4 Brian? XD
The amount of nades we chewed through in every direction while on the run, Duckman would be still be crying for the next few weeks.
he didn't even take Betsy out either. hahaha.

at the old new flag raiders, there were some tornado's tossed over the tall mesh netting which made retrieval difficult.

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I don't see this as an issue..

They are only really useful to toss into an enclosed area.. which you will immediatly go in to to mop up ..

Make certain everyone is dead... pick up your expended grenade.. and move on
not as easy with propelled grenades/rockets though. even though an area is cleared doesn't mean others aren't waiting in the shadows.

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