Airsoft at 400 FPS. Any risk?

The Saint · July 21st, 2008, 19:19

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

There really isn't any reason to upgrade a gun to 400fps, regardless of what people might have told you. 350-380fps with the right ammo will have the same performace as a 397fps gun, possibly even better due to the hop up.

That is kind of off topic. I don't think they're going to be downgrading their guns over this.

Sentinel · July 21st, 2008, 19:28

Like someone said to me, ''400fps is a limit, not a goal!''

Some guns will reach farther distance at 340 fps than if it was upgraded to 400fps. There is so many variables in the airsoft. For us the limit is set to 400fps down here with sometimes a little tolerance of 10 fps cause upgrading is not an exact science. Sniperswith BA are limited to 500fps but they are not allowed to shoot if the target within 75-100 feets. Snipers AEG broked in semi (SR25, or PSG1, ect...) are limited to 450fps with the same rule. Also we suggest to avoid headshot. Freeze is not option if both players aiming theyre guns at each other, it's clean fight but if a player surprise another then he could freeze.

Deftonius · July 21st, 2008, 19:30

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Originally Posted by happytit

10 - 20 feet
out side that it hurts but the risk is less
anything closer i ALWAYS call freeze

Freeze?

It's better to yell Mercy or Surrender.

The Saint · July 21st, 2008, 19:37

How about "BANG"? Easy to get out during stress, only one syllable. Also does not imply any option on the part of the receiving individual, as it's declaring that you've made a killing shot (without shooting) as oppose to mercy/surrender where it's more like a challenge/response.

Metalsynth · July 21st, 2008, 19:47

I've seen 2 people get their teeth broken. One was a hot AEG slightly over 400 and he was shooting his M4 like it was an m249( yes, he was an assh&?%) the other was around 380 if I remember so it was a legitimate accident.

My first rule is shhoot the freaking vest or legs. It's not good practice for real life situations but this is airsoft, I've gotten mouth and google shots too many times to know that it's just because of plain bad habits people take on.

The 10 feet rule is a farce. Shoot the freaking vest, I've shot people in the back or execution style and never hurt anyone of em juste because I dont shoot vital parts.

There are situations that will probably make you shhoot the person in the face though, like if it's the only target you offer, I dont see whhy I would'nt use it so in the end it's also about being comphrensive taht you must give and take, just like chrismas...except this one leaves a different mark on your heart :P

AIM FOR THE FREAKING VEST!!!

Ronan · July 21st, 2008, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

There really isn't any reason to upgrade a gun to 400fps, regardless of what people might have told you. 350-380fps with the right ammo will have the same performace as a 397fps gun, possibly even better due to the hop up.

Tell that to the PTW crowd

Mouth and eyes protection and you will be fine.

One rule of thumb, don't open your mouth when being shot at

kalnaren · July 21st, 2008, 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan

Tell that to the PTW crowd

Mouth and eyes protection and you will be fine.

One rule of thumb, don't open your mouth when being shot at

A well maintained and properly tuned AEG shooting the correct ammo at 360 will shoot just as well as a PTW.

Styrak · July 21st, 2008, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan

Tell that to the PTW crowd

Mouth and eyes protection and you will be fine.

One rule of thumb, don't open your mouth when being shot at

We can't help if PTW's suck at 360 FPS vs 400 FPS

Thorazine · July 21st, 2008, 21:35

I have no problems with the current Calgary (Alberta?) ruleset for FPS in place.

Outdoor Events:
- 420 FPS for full auto guns
- 480 FPS for bolt action and semi-only guns

Indoor Events:
- 320 FPS for all guns

Janus · July 21st, 2008, 21:47

Sometimes, though...your enemy gives you very little option. They could be under great cover, so all you see is a head, a hand and a gun.

Sure, I'll go for center of mass if I can, but if the opponent gives me no choice, I'm pretty good at headshots too.

But...I find a good and simple rule of thumb is, "If there is a safety issue, take your finger off the trigger."

Yankee · July 21st, 2008, 22:06

Well, I didn't upgrade my gun to 400 FPS. It already was. (KWA M4A1).

c3sk · July 21st, 2008, 22:28

Projectiles hitting you in the face is never a good thing. If you like the way your face looks and don't want to mess it up - wear protection.

Replacement teeth are like $1000-$1500 give or take?
If shot directly in the mouth, there is still a good chance that your lips will not absorb the force and you will lose your front teeth.

Tankdude · July 21st, 2008, 22:29

Don't know why someone didn't post this before.

MickeyWang · July 21st, 2008, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by c3sk

Projectiles hitting you in the face is never a good thing. If you like the way your face looks and don't want to mess it up - wear protection.

Replacement teeth are like $1000-$1500 give or take?
If shot directly in the mouth, there is still a good chance that your lips will not absorb the force and you will lose your front teeth.

L96 shooting ~465 with .20g

Full porcelain crown $950
root canal $450
1.5 hrs in the chair
and a half day off work

... nothin like a day on the range.

Wang

RedSteel666 · July 22nd, 2008, 22:43

My two cents, seems to me boosting the FPS to 400+ is just asking to make it a harder case to prove for airsoft legitimacy legally as a combat sport and the weapons being definable as causing some extensive bodily harm. I mean look at this pictures above, that's some messed up wounds from a sport. Only time I've seen something else like that is in amateur hockey games at unreffed rink where people weren't wearing proper equipment.

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July 21st, 2008, 19:28	#17
Sentinel Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Quebec City	Like someone said to me, ''400fps is a limit, not a goal!'' Some guns will reach farther distance at 340 fps than if it was upgraded to 400fps. There is so many variables in the airsoft. For us the limit is set to 400fps down here with sometimes a little tolerance of 10 fps cause upgrading is not an exact science. Sniperswith BA are limited to 500fps but they are not allowed to shoot if the target within 75-100 feets. Snipers AEG broked in semi (SR25, or PSG1, ect...) are limited to 450fps with the same rule. Also we suggest to avoid headshot. Freeze is not option if both players aiming theyre guns at each other, it's clean fight but if a player surprise another then he could freeze. __________________ FREEDOM FIGHTERS AIRSOFT TEAM Sell/Buy ratings : http://www.airsoftcanada.com/classif...ction=readfeed

July 21st, 2008, 19:37	#19
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	How about "BANG"? Easy to get out during stress, only one syllable. Also does not imply any option on the part of the receiving individual, as it's declaring that you've made a killing shot (without shooting) as oppose to mercy/surrender where it's more like a challenge/response. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

July 21st, 2008, 19:47	#20
Metalsynth Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montreal	I've seen 2 people get their teeth broken. One was a hot AEG slightly over 400 and he was shooting his M4 like it was an m249( yes, he was an assh&?%) the other was around 380 if I remember so it was a legitimate accident. My first rule is shhoot the freaking vest or legs. It's not good practice for real life situations but this is airsoft, I've gotten mouth and google shots too many times to know that it's just because of plain bad habits people take on. The 10 feet rule is a farce. Shoot the freaking vest, I've shot people in the back or execution style and never hurt anyone of em juste because I dont shoot vital parts. There are situations that will probably make you shhoot the person in the face though, like if it's the only target you offer, I dont see whhy I would'nt use it so in the end it's also about being comphrensive taht you must give and take, just like chrismas...except this one leaves a different mark on your heart :P AIM FOR THE FREAKING VEST!!! __________________ Certified Level 2 BA Sniper Si ton épée est trop courte, allonge la d'un pas. ( Proverbe Hongrois )

July 21st, 2008, 21:35	#24
Thorazine Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Calgary, AB.	I have no problems with the current Calgary (Alberta?) ruleset for FPS in place. Outdoor Events: - 420 FPS for full auto guns - 480 FPS for bolt action and semi-only guns Indoor Events: - 320 FPS for all guns

July 21st, 2008, 21:47	#25
Janus Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Red Deer, AB	Sometimes, though...your enemy gives you very little option. They could be under great cover, so all you see is a head, a hand and a gun. Sure, I'll go for center of mass if I can, but if the opponent gives me no choice, I'm pretty good at headshots too. But...I find a good and simple rule of thumb is, "If there is a safety issue, take your finger off the trigger." __________________ Age Verifier - Lower Vancouver Island Brotherhood of Nod - Nod Prime \|\| Vancouver Island Airsoft League - President Unavailable for AV until April 2020.

July 21st, 2008, 22:06	#26
Yankee NessMcCool Trader rating Join Date: May 2008	Well, I didn't upgrade my gun to 400 FPS. It already was. (KWA M4A1).

July 21st, 2008, 22:28	#27
c3sk (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ก็็็็็็็็็็็็็	Projectiles hitting you in the face is never a good thing. If you like the way your face looks and don't want to mess it up - wear protection. Replacement teeth are like $1000-$1500 give or take? If shot directly in the mouth, there is still a good chance that your lips will not absorb the force and you will lose your front teeth.

July 21st, 2008, 22:29	#28
Tankdude Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Coast, New Brunswick	Don't know why someone didn't post this before.

July 22nd, 2008, 22:43	#30
RedSteel666 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria, BC	My two cents, seems to me boosting the FPS to 400+ is just asking to make it a harder case to prove for airsoft legitimacy legally as a combat sport and the weapons being definable as causing some extensive bodily harm. I mean look at this pictures above, that's some messed up wounds from a sport. Only time I've seen something else like that is in amateur hockey games at unreffed rink where people weren't wearing proper equipment.

Airsoft at 400 FPS. Any risk?

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