It's AALIVVE!!! Well, almost. Tornado grenade video posted on my site!

Pip · March 5th, 2008, 00:39

Wow...just wow....Incredible work. Good job and thank you. Will definitely be grabbing a few once they go retail.

Donster · March 5th, 2008, 00:48

they look great! are they reuseable, and what kind of pouch will they fit in? Like a flashbang pouch or what?

Styrak · March 5th, 2008, 00:54

Did you read the site at all?

http://airsoft-innovations.com/Grenade.html

Donster · March 5th, 2008, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak

Did you read the site at all?

http://airsoft-innovations.com/Grenade.html

oh my bad. i tried looking for it, but i didn't see it under the product section. im tired, but that is no real excuse. thank you very much!

EDIT: What pouch do you recommend storing it in? Flashbang pouch what?

NovaKaynE · March 5th, 2008, 01:05

FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!

This would be a fun way to wake the parents up one morning.

ShaWdowS · March 5th, 2008, 01:09

Man i want one TOO!! maybe TWO!!! or more.

It's awesome!

BTW the portal video is AMAZING!

arman · March 5th, 2008, 01:10

nice now i can usr the pic i took at tac-08

8skippy40 · March 5th, 2008, 01:16

arman is 1st on the preorder list
skippy is duce on the preorder list

i cannot wait for this thing. arman and i threw this bad boy about 3 times each TTAC - 08 and it was AMAZING!!

nice work mad max and i cant wait to use this bad boy on the guys in windsor and in K - town

thanks alot man!!

BBS · March 5th, 2008, 01:23

DAYUM!

~Ghost~ · March 5th, 2008, 01:45

Finally a granade the dosent require new cartriges or one that the frame dosent fly all over the fking place and loose pieces. best of all we Canadian buyers dont hav to worry about customs getting thier damd greedy fingers on this bad boy when i order one! hehh hehh
I knew i was holding out for something special and i believe i just found it!!

Mysteryfish · March 5th, 2008, 02:59

So many questions.

Must own.

monkey530 · March 5th, 2008, 02:59

I thought he said it was like $85-$100 max for the grenade. Anyways, the video is freaking awesome. Mad funny with the animation. Interesting the way the grenade deploys the BB's. I thought it was going to be some crazy thing like the grenade Maple Leaves developed in Taiwan. But none the less, this looks very promising and impressive. R&D for it to deploy like that must have been a pain.

MadMax · March 5th, 2008, 03:29

Getting it to work just right was a real bugger. Someday I'll have to collect all the bits of the previous proof of concept models and photograph a progression of grenade concepts. Maybe start an AI museum corner of all of the adaptor and grenade prototypes. A pile of tortured airsoft guns and accessories we devoured in the development process too.

The first concept in the design line that ended up here was pretty funny. It used a length of tubing instead of a spiral passage in shell halves. When the grenade went off the pellets hosed out and tubing whipped around scattering a disc shaped pattern. It's successor had two tubes which had thermoformed ends to try to get them to point up and down so they blasted cones. I was goofy looking and turned into a snarl of hose but it proved the concept of a spinning grenade pretty well. I was going to call that grenade the TentacleNade.

There were many generations of timer builds too. The grenade in this first video featured a timer that had to be refilled with a small amount of water (around 10mL). It was consistent, but a little annoying to refill. I recently improved the design to not need water (which was pretty difficult), but I felt it made the product much better. V1 was going to have a water based timer, but I decided to jump right to V2 for this first release because of testing feedback.

I couldn't afford to rent the camera again to reshoot with the new delay, but the current build performs quite similarly to the earlier water delay build.

Chingyul · March 5th, 2008, 03:37

Great design. Would make for a fun 4th year engineering design project too.
Liked how you used the different coloured BBs to see the dispersal pattern.

The concern I would have after watching the video was to how well it performs if it was rolled along the ground. I'm guessing the dispersal isn't as effective as standing straight up, but still effective?

Looks pretty beefy too. Good for durability. But not too heavy that it'll injure someone if they get beaned by it?

MadMax · March 5th, 2008, 03:48

It tends to land sideways. I've never seen a grenade land and stay upright in testing.

It's damn durable, but I do worry about the bonk hazard. Still, it seemed obvious to all of my testers that they shouldn't be whipping the grenades at each other. It seemed that underhand tosses were easiest to control. Long bombing a grenade downfield doesn't work very well as you have no idea where it'll end up stopping and blowing up. You also risk losing it because it's hard to keep a long throw in sight.

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March 5th, 2008, 00:54	#18
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Did you read the site at all? http://airsoft-innovations.com/Grenade.html __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

March 5th, 2008, 01:05	#20
NovaKaynE Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Durham Region	FIRE IN THE HOLE!!! This would be a fun way to wake the parents up one morning. __________________ *The Distance Between Courage & Stupidity Is Exactly Nine Millimeters*

March 5th, 2008, 01:09	#21
ShaWdowS Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scarborough, Toronto, Ontario	Man i want one TOO!! maybe TWO!!! or more. It's awesome! BTW the portal video is AMAZING! __________________ " Deeds, not words. "

March 5th, 2008, 00:48	#17
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	they look great! are they reuseable, and what kind of pouch will they fit in? Like a flashbang pouch or what?

March 5th, 2008, 01:10	#22
arman Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Windsor, Ont.	nice now i can usr the pic i took at tac-08 __________________ playing with my kid!

March 5th, 2008, 01:16	#23
8skippy40 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: windsor, ontario	arman is 1st on the preorder list skippy is duce on the preorder list i cannot wait for this thing. arman and i threw this bad boy about 3 times each TTAC - 08 and it was AMAZING!! nice work mad max and i cant wait to use this bad boy on the guys in windsor and in K - town thanks alot man!! __________________

March 5th, 2008, 01:23	#24
BBS Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BC, Canada	DAYUM!

March 5th, 2008, 01:45	#25
~Ghost~ Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ont,Canada	Finally a granade the dosent require new cartriges or one that the frame dosent fly all over the fking place and loose pieces. best of all we Canadian buyers dont hav to worry about customs getting thier damd greedy fingers on this bad boy when i order one! hehh hehh I knew i was holding out for something special and i believe i just found it!! __________________ MODT - tu fui ego eris Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate. Sun Tzu

March 5th, 2008, 02:59	#26
Mysteryfish Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Vancouver, B.C.	So many questions. Must own.

March 5th, 2008, 02:59	#27
monkey530 Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008	I thought he said it was like $85-$100 max for the grenade. Anyways, the video is freaking awesome. Mad funny with the animation. Interesting the way the grenade deploys the BB's. I thought it was going to be some crazy thing like the grenade Maple Leaves developed in Taiwan. But none the less, this looks very promising and impressive. R&D for it to deploy like that must have been a pain.

March 5th, 2008, 03:29	#28
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	Getting it to work just right was a real bugger. Someday I'll have to collect all the bits of the previous proof of concept models and photograph a progression of grenade concepts. Maybe start an AI museum corner of all of the adaptor and grenade prototypes. A pile of tortured airsoft guns and accessories we devoured in the development process too. The first concept in the design line that ended up here was pretty funny. It used a length of tubing instead of a spiral passage in shell halves. When the grenade went off the pellets hosed out and tubing whipped around scattering a disc shaped pattern. It's successor had two tubes which had thermoformed ends to try to get them to point up and down so they blasted cones. I was goofy looking and turned into a snarl of hose but it proved the concept of a spinning grenade pretty well. I was going to call that grenade the TentacleNade. There were many generations of timer builds too. The grenade in this first video featured a timer that had to be refilled with a small amount of water (around 10mL). It was consistent, but a little annoying to refill. I recently improved the design to not need water (which was pretty difficult), but I felt it made the product much better. V1 was going to have a water based timer, but I decided to jump right to V2 for this first release because of testing feedback. I couldn't afford to rent the camera again to reshoot with the new delay, but the current build performs quite similarly to the earlier water delay build. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

March 5th, 2008, 03:37	#29
Chingyul Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta	Great design. Would make for a fun 4th year engineering design project too. Liked how you used the different coloured BBs to see the dispersal pattern. The concern I would have after watching the video was to how well it performs if it was rolled along the ground. I'm guessing the dispersal isn't as effective as standing straight up, but still effective? Looks pretty beefy too. Good for durability. But not too heavy that it'll injure someone if they get beaned by it? __________________ Archived Buy/Sell Rating Last edited by Chingyul; March 5th, 2008 at 03:44..

March 5th, 2008, 03:48	#30
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	It tends to land sideways. I've never seen a grenade land and stay upright in testing. It's damn durable, but I do worry about the bonk hazard. Still, it seemed obvious to all of my testers that they shouldn't be whipping the grenades at each other. It seemed that underhand tosses were easiest to control. Long bombing a grenade downfield doesn't work very well as you have no idea where it'll end up stopping and blowing up. You also risk losing it because it's hard to keep a long throw in sight. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

It's AALIVVE!!! Well, almost. Tornado grenade video posted on my site!

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