MOSFET UNIT Questions

Dynamo · January 30th, 2012, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Korunos

I had a Raptor installed in my VFC M4 by my gun doc and I love it. Programming is very easy, trigger response is amazing. Once I run LiPo is should get even better.

careful, i burned out two rapters on the same week on 11.1v lipo.

ThunderCactus · January 30th, 2012, 22:18

Watch your wattage carefully.
If you're running high FPS and high ROF with a motor that's an amp hog (like an un-insulated magnum), you're gonna burn out MOSFETs like crazy.

At 380fps and 1500rpm, I'm using an EF1300 hummer, but I had to get an SW-COMP custom made for significantly higher amperage than the stock units so I could maintain fire on my SAW.

Dynamo · January 30th, 2012, 22:38

yea i was using a Magnum. that motor is now toast, so im looking at getting a new one. if the magnum is bad for mosfets and the AWS can't take the high amp, what would be a good motor to pair up with it?

right now im back to using the SW-comp i had before getting the Raptor with an old EG-1000. i really liked the trigger response on the raptor and would love to have one again.

ThunderCactus · January 31st, 2012, 01:10

pretty well anything but a magnum really lol
G&P M140 or M160, the systema energy motors might be good but I haven't heard anything about them yet.
Tienly motors are apparently very good.
TM motors are excellent if you've got a low load on it.
And your best bet for high performance is the eagle force EF1300, that's what I run in my 249 and it's one of the only $80+ airsoft motors that's actually worth $80+

Jcotter · January 31st, 2012, 14:15

I was looking at The eagle force last night. I saw them on TMC(tokyomodelcompany) for around 80.00 bucks. I've never dealt with them before tho.( I had to do a lot of browsing last night just to find a website that had any variety of motors in stock. )

I have a stock (internally) Socom gear Noveske N4 (OEM'd by VFC) Since VFC have the slim pistol grip on their m4's, do you know if they require a special motor? Will any long type motor fit?

ILLusion · January 31st, 2012, 15:07

The Eagle Force 1300 is by far one of my most favorite airsoft motors. As ThunderCactus said, it's an $80 motor that's ACTUALLY worth $80. The performance is solid, they're very durable, high torque, high ROF, and they're not a major power hog like Systema motors are.

Korunos · January 31st, 2012, 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamo

careful, i burned out two rapters on the same week on 11.1v lipo.

Ouch, sorry to hear that. I've heard the Raptors are a PITA to get now since most places are sold out. Still using a 9.6/1600Mah NiMH battery, was thinking about going to a 7.4 LiPo.

Still using stock VFC motor, should I look at changing this out because of the Raptor now?

Gunny_McSmith · January 31st, 2012, 17:12

Tiger Tactical (LINK) has a few in stock... but Airsoft parts will be restocking soon too!

Dynamo · January 31st, 2012, 17:46

been looking at some reviews and it seems that the ICS 3000 motor uses less amps than the EF, but the difference is only by 4-6 amps. it also runs faster RPM and has a bit more torque, but it is quite a bit more noisy. so since i can't stand a screaching AEG, i'll be getting an EF to pair with my new Raptor.

ThunderCactus · January 31st, 2012, 19:38

every motor has pros and cons, but reviews generally don't include baselines for reliability.
You can have an amazing airsoft motor on the dyno, but if it's got weak bearings, it might only last half a season of hard use

Jcotter · January 31st, 2012, 20:19

Where would you guys suggest getting the Eagle Force from?

ThunderCactus · January 31st, 2012, 22:21

any place that sells them? lol

Jcotter · January 31st, 2012, 22:43

I guess I deserve that, I should have been more specific, do you know of any Canadian retailers that stock them?

ILLusion · January 31st, 2012, 22:48

I'm not even sure if Eagle Force airsoft motors are still in production...

Their specialty was in the RC market.

Gunny_McSmith · January 31st, 2012, 22:52

I wonder why we dont use brushless RC motors in airsoft...

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January 30th, 2012, 22:38	#18
Dynamo Harvester of Noobs' Sorrow Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: T̆͒ͥ̓̿̅̈́̐͊̿͗̐̾̃͐ͧ&#8	yea i was using a Magnum. that motor is now toast, so im looking at getting a new one. if the magnum is bad for mosfets and the AWS can't take the high amp, what would be a good motor to pair up with it? right now im back to using the SW-comp i had before getting the Raptor with an old EG-1000. i really liked the trigger response on the raptor and would love to have one again. __________________ Weapons Technician / Gunsmith Don't look at me, I don't know, lol ¯\(°_o)/¯.

January 31st, 2012, 14:15	#20
Jcotter Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brookfield NS	I was looking at The eagle force last night. I saw them on TMC(tokyomodelcompany) for around 80.00 bucks. I've never dealt with them before tho.( I had to do a lot of browsing last night just to find a website that had any variety of motors in stock. ) I have a stock (internally) Socom gear Noveske N4 (OEM'd by VFC) Since VFC have the slim pistol grip on their m4's, do you know if they require a special motor? Will any long type motor fit? __________________ "A Bullet may have your name on it, but a grenade is addressed to whom it may concern." Last edited by Jcotter; January 31st, 2012 at 14:22..

January 31st, 2012, 15:07	#21
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	The Eagle Force 1300 is by far one of my most favorite airsoft motors. As ThunderCactus said, it's an $80 motor that's ACTUALLY worth $80. The performance is solid, they're very durable, high torque, high ROF, and they're not a major power hog like Systema motors are. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

January 30th, 2012, 22:18	#17
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Watch your wattage carefully. If you're running high FPS and high ROF with a motor that's an amp hog (like an un-insulated magnum), you're gonna burn out MOSFETs like crazy. At 380fps and 1500rpm, I'm using an EF1300 hummer, but I had to get an SW-COMP custom made for significantly higher amperage than the stock units so I could maintain fire on my SAW.

January 31st, 2012, 01:10	#19
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	pretty well anything but a magnum really lol G&P M140 or M160, the systema energy motors might be good but I haven't heard anything about them yet. Tienly motors are apparently very good. TM motors are excellent if you've got a low load on it. And your best bet for high performance is the eagle force EF1300, that's what I run in my 249 and it's one of the only $80+ airsoft motors that's actually worth $80+

January 31st, 2012, 17:12	#23
Gunny_McSmith a.k.a. Palucol Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MTL	Tiger Tactical (LINK) has a few in stock... but Airsoft parts will be restocking soon too! __________________

January 31st, 2012, 17:46	#24
Dynamo Harvester of Noobs' Sorrow Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: T̆͒ͥ̓̿̅̈́̐͊̿͗̐̾̃͐ͧ&#8	been looking at some reviews and it seems that the ICS 3000 motor uses less amps than the EF, but the difference is only by 4-6 amps. it also runs faster RPM and has a bit more torque, but it is quite a bit more noisy. so since i can't stand a screaching AEG, i'll be getting an EF to pair with my new Raptor. __________________ Weapons Technician / Gunsmith Don't look at me, I don't know, lol ¯\(°_o)/¯.

January 31st, 2012, 19:38	#25
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	every motor has pros and cons, but reviews generally don't include baselines for reliability. You can have an amazing airsoft motor on the dyno, but if it's got weak bearings, it might only last half a season of hard use

January 31st, 2012, 20:19	#26
Jcotter Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brookfield NS	Where would you guys suggest getting the Eagle Force from? __________________ "A Bullet may have your name on it, but a grenade is addressed to whom it may concern."

January 31st, 2012, 22:21	#27
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	any place that sells them? lol

January 31st, 2012, 22:43	#28
Jcotter Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brookfield NS	I guess I deserve that, I should have been more specific, do you know of any Canadian retailers that stock them? __________________ "A Bullet may have your name on it, but a grenade is addressed to whom it may concern."

January 31st, 2012, 22:48	#29
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	I'm not even sure if Eagle Force airsoft motors are still in production... Their specialty was in the RC market. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

January 31st, 2012, 22:52	#30
Gunny_McSmith a.k.a. Palucol Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MTL	I wonder why we dont use brushless RC motors in airsoft... __________________

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