Magpul Real Steel CTR stock

[turok_t]

Hey guys,

Im thinking about getting a real steel Magpul CTR stock here: http://store.magpul.com/product/5/83

Will this work for AEG?

Also what is the difference between the real steel CTR stock and the PTS CTR stock here: http://www.magpul-pts.com/catalog/in...products_id=30

[Azathoth]

A friend of mine purchased RS CTR stock for his gun. Minimal differences between the commercial and mil spec that you need to worry about. Some buffer tubes probably most airsoft tubes are milspec his commercial stock wobbles on the buffer tube (or is it the other way around??).

[turok_t]

So theres alot of wobble?

I got a buffer tube from huang..

[TokyoSeven]

I believe G&P makes a stock tube that allows users to convert RS to AS.
It could be an option if you find that there is a lot of wobble or fitment issues.

[turok_t]

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

I believe G&P makes a stock tube that allows users to convert RS to AS.
It could be an option if you find that there is a lot of wobble or fitment issues.

Thanks T7, u made my day!

[RacingManiac]

Commercial buffer tube has larger OD than Mil-spec. Magpul makes a CTR specifically for each type of stock tube. If you use a Milspec one on commercial tube it won't fit. The other way around, it'll wobble. AEG is usually Mil-spec OR smaller.

[FlyGuy]

Racing Maniac's got the differences and details well-covered so I won't repeat. However, lots-o-luck getting one directly from Magpul (see below). FWIW, there's precious little difference, from an airsoft point of view, between the PTS version of the CTR stock and the RS version. Why spend the extra cash on RS when this is one situation where you really don't have to and will still get a very good quality product.

From Magpul's website:

Do You Ship Internationally?

We do NOT ship internationally and all orders must have US billing and shipping addresses.

PLEASE NOTE: Many of the items on this Web site are subject to the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR, 22 CFR Parts 120-130), the Arms Export Control Act (22 USC 2778), or the Export Administration Act of 1979, as amended (22 USC App. 2401 et. seq.), and Export is strictly prohibited without authorization or a license issued by the U.S. Department of State's Directorate of Defense Trade Controls.

'Fly

[turok_t]

When you guys refer to "commerical" are u referring to the PTS?
When you guys refer to "mil-spec" are u referring to real steel?

Flyguy: because i can get the real steel one for cheaper, and im not buying it directly from magpul, I used those links as references only

BTW: Are AEG stocks be able to make it safely across the Canadian border? As far as i know, they are not prohibited, but i just wanted to be sure.

[FlyGuy]

Ahh...ok...'alternate sourcing'...no problem...understood! No as RM has mentioned the different terms, "commercial" and "mil-spec" refer to the OD of the buffer/stock tube and aren't related to PTS vs RS at all. PTS is basically a licensed, trade-marked "airsoft-only" version of the real steel counterpart.

Magpul Industries does not and never will condone using a PTS version of their products on any genuine, your-life-depends-upon-it, real steel weapons, which is why their products for that market are for the most part made tougher and with more expensive/durable materials than their 'training version' PTS siblings. Now that's not to say the PTS versions are shiite either, just that the real steel versions are designed and manufactured to save your life if need be, and thus will cost more and will be much harder to acquire outside the USA. If you've found a RS version of the CTR then good on ya mate! Just be certain that it will fit over your AEG's buffer tube (re-read RM's post - you probably need a milspec) or you may be somewhat disappointed.

Cheers!
'Fly

[turok_t]

Originally Posted by FlyGuy

Ahh...ok...'alternate sourcing'...no problem...understood! No as RM has mentioned the different terms, "commercial" and "mil-spec" refer to the OD of the buffer/stock tube and aren't related to PTS vs RS at all. PTS is basically a licensed, trade-marked "airsoft-only" version of the real steel counterpart.

Magpul Industries does not and never will condone using a PTS version of their products on any genuine, your-life-depends-upon-it, real steel weapons, which is why their products for that market are for the most part made tougher and with more expensive/durable materials than their 'training version' PTS siblings. Now that's not to say the PTS versions are shiite either, just that the real steel versions are designed and manufactured to save your life if need be, and thus will cost more and will be much harder to acquire outside the USA. If you've found a RS version of the CTR then good on ya mate! Just be certain that it will fit over your AEG's buffer tube (re-read RM's post - you probably need a milspec) or you may be somewhat disappointed.

Cheers!
'Fly

Thanks for your reply!

1. So how do i tell if something is "commercial" vs "mil-spec" Do u have any examples?

2. Will i be able to import a RS CTR stock across canadian border? I know a guy that is selling it in the US

3. What is the diameter of the hole on the RS CTR, maybe if someone gave me a dimension, i can measure it on my buffer tube.

[StrikeFreedom]

Do you really need a RS stock? I doubt you'll ever abuse/beat the AEG like the RS.

[turok_t]

Anyone have any thoughts re: my inquiries?

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by turok_t

Anyone have any thoughts re: my inquiries?

Technically if someone in the US sold you a RS CTR stock and sent it to you, they'd be doing something illegal due to US export regulations.

It doesn't matter whether it comes from Magpul directly or an individual. It's STILL the States.

[turok_t]

Originally Posted by Styrak

Technically if someone in the US sold you a RS CTR stock and sent it to you, they'd be doing something illegal due to US export regulations.

It doesn't matter whether it comes from Magpul directly or an individual. It's STILL the States.

Why is it illegal to export a RS CTR stock in US?
Why is it okay for oversea places to export PTS stocks?

Dont they both look the same?

[RacingManiac]

ITAR is the reason, it stands for International Traffic in Arms Restriction. For US this rule applies for parts designed specifically for the application for military. In Magpul's case this is actually kinda interesting. The "design" of the stock(shape, functions...etc) is considered off the shelf and is not ITAR restricted. But the material used in Magpul's genuine product(remember Magpul made its fame from making polymer furniture) is the ITAR parts. So they cannot export any genuine Magpul stuff without a proper ITAR license issued by US State Dept.(ITAR does not its banned from export, just means you need license to export it).

The RS stuff obviously has to meet some mil-spec standard for durability and strength, where as the PTS does not. Thus you are using PTS at your own risk on real steel item.

Now for me, as a person resides in US, its actually cheaper for me to get RS stuff, since PTS parts will be sold through HK seller and shipping is expensive(most PTS item costs the same MSRP as RS). For airsofter outside of US, who may have difficulty obtaining RS Magpul, PTS provides a good enough alternative. If you are RS shooter outside of US, I am sure there are importer working with exporter in US that gets Magpul items through proper method, but cost likely to be higher, but really would you risk using PTS stuff on RS?