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Cardinal69 · July 7th, 2011, 13:45

Hello All, Couple of quick questions regarding old school airsoft.

I have a KHC Beretta M92F non blowback and runs on Flon B.

1.) What can I use instead of flon B (Freon 12) to run this gun?

2.) This gun is from the beginnings of airsoft around the 1980's, does anyone have any clue what sort of value?

Firewalker · July 10th, 2011, 03:57

You can switch to HFC134a (which replaced Freon 12). It has about the same pressures and tolerances.

As for worth? That I don't know. I'd assume as a collector piece, it'd fetch a pretty penny, but as a fieldable piece, there's probably better items (mags? parts? etc.). It's a toss-up. You'd have to find a collector willing to pay a premium above a similar gun's price for its collectible nature. Rarity also factors into it as well.

I'd look at what a similar gun will fetch now, how rare the piece is and play up its collectability if you plan on selling it.

EagleDriver · July 10th, 2011, 11:21

The KHC M92F was first made in 1998. Based on Yahoo Japan it has a current retail value of between $30 and $60 USD (3,000 to 5,000 YEN.) I picked mine up about 2 years ago for $35 USD. I have not tried a different gas in mine, but it would not hurt to try duster gas if the adapter will fit the fill nozzle.

sortie39 · July 10th, 2011, 14:36

KHC is a japan company?? I bet its the crappiest!

BloodSport · July 10th, 2011, 14:52

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Originally Posted by sortie39

KHC is a japan company?? I bet its the crappiest!

Based upon what?

akamikeee · July 10th, 2011, 15:04

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Originally Posted by sortie39

KHC is a japan company?? I bet its the crappiest!

Can't speak about the M9 as I have never owned one, but the KHC Maverick was a neat gun.

R.I.T.Z · July 10th, 2011, 15:24

is that a shotgun? :S

Thenooblord · July 10th, 2011, 15:33

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Originally Posted by BloodSport

Based upon what?

obviously based on his comprehensive and deep knowledge of every japanese airsoft brand ever, and definitely not making dumb assumptions based on nothing

sortie39 · July 10th, 2011, 15:33

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Originally Posted by BloodSport

Based upon what?

you get what you paid ..

akamikeee · July 10th, 2011, 15:34

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Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z

is that a shotgun? :S

Yes, it's a replica of a Mossberg 500 bullpup shotgun

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/usa/mossberg-500-e.html

L473ncy · July 10th, 2011, 16:43

Does anyone else think the "C" in KHC kind of looks like the "C" in the KWC logo? Or as a matter of fact the entire logo kind of looks like a ripoff of the KWC logo or vice versa?

BloodSport · July 10th, 2011, 20:49

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Originally Posted by sortie39

you get what you paid ..

But it being made in Japan has no bearing on that. Some of the best airsoft guns period are made in Japan.

Drake · July 10th, 2011, 21:43

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Originally Posted by Thenooblord

obviously based on his comprehensive and deep knowledge of every japanese airsoft brand ever, and definitely not making dumb assumptions based on nothing

You mean like you keep doing?

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July 7th, 2011, 13:45	#1
Cardinal69 Trader rating Join Date: May 2011	Airsoft Collector item Hello All, Couple of quick questions regarding old school airsoft. I have a KHC Beretta M92F non blowback and runs on Flon B. 1.) What can I use instead of flon B (Freon 12) to run this gun? 2.) This gun is from the beginnings of airsoft around the 1980's, does anyone have any clue what sort of value?

July 10th, 2011, 03:57	#2
Firewalker Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	You can switch to HFC134a (which replaced Freon 12). It has about the same pressures and tolerances. As for worth? That I don't know. I'd assume as a collector piece, it'd fetch a pretty penny, but as a fieldable piece, there's probably better items (mags? parts? etc.). It's a toss-up. You'd have to find a collector willing to pay a premium above a similar gun's price for its collectible nature. Rarity also factors into it as well. I'd look at what a similar gun will fetch now, how rare the piece is and play up its collectability if you plan on selling it. __________________ Last edited by Firewalker; July 10th, 2011 at 04:00..

July 10th, 2011, 16:43	#11
L473ncy Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 11-30-24-1W5	Does anyone else think the "C" in KHC kind of looks like the "C" in the KWC logo? Or as a matter of fact the entire logo kind of looks like a ripoff of the KWC logo or vice versa? __________________ ಠ_ಠLess QQ more Pew Pew READY TO >> RACE

July 10th, 2011, 11:21	#3
EagleDriver Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Baltimore, MD USA	The KHC M92F was first made in 1998. Based on Yahoo Japan it has a current retail value of between $30 and $60 USD (3,000 to 5,000 YEN.) I picked mine up about 2 years ago for $35 USD. I have not tried a different gas in mine, but it would not hurt to try duster gas if the adapter will fit the fill nozzle.

July 10th, 2011, 14:36	#4
sortie39 Banned Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Calgary AB	KHC is a japan company?? I bet its the crappiest!

July 10th, 2011, 15:24	#7
R.I.T.Z Crackers Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Shwa	is that a shotgun? :S

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