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Old July 18th, 2012, 14:53   #46
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Hey quick questions for you guys. Is it okay to report a bad feedback rating if you see it on someone else's trader page?

For instance I was checking someones trader rating and saw they gave retaliatory feedback simply because they received a negative.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 14:59   #47
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RETALIATORY FEEDBACK

As a reminder, there IS a hard rule against leaving retaliatory feedback, which WILL net you an infraction that could lead to a temporary system ban. It can also result in you LOSING YOUR AGE VERIFICATION STATUS. Retaliatory feedback is described as follows:
- You are the seller
- Your buyer is unsatisfied with the item you sold him, you failed to meet the requirement of satisfaction to the description of the transaction, and as a result, the buyer issued you a negative feedback. Despite the buyer paying you IN FULL, and ON TIME (thus, fully meeting the prescribed outline of his end of the deal), you left him a negative feedback in retaliation for the one you sent to him.

I don't care if you thought the buyer was annoying, or a pain in the ass after the transaction. Leaving him a negative rating because he gave you one, IS RETALIATORY. This is an abuse of the rating system, and will gain you an infraction.
Does it meet the above definition of a retaliatory feedback?

If uncertain, maybe submit to the admins both the feedback sections (negative & retaliatory) and let them make the determination.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 15:14   #48
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Does it meet the above definition of a retaliatory feedback?

If uncertain, maybe submit to the admins both the feedback sections (negative & retaliatory) and let them make the determination.
Yes it meets the conditions. The seller gave a buyer a neg simply because he didn't contact him (the seller) about problems with a gun.

I dont know it its cool for me to report it because I was not involved with the deal. I just noticed someone get a neg in retaliation for leaving negative feedback.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 15:25   #49
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Understood.

It's not our duty to police other's actions. Any action would have to be initiated by buyer. If the buyer doesn't want to address it, that's his/her decision. There is also the possibility that action IS being taken, but occurring via PMs.

I would leave it be.
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Old July 18th, 2012, 16:01   #50
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Go ahead and report it. Retaliatory feedback skews the system -- not everyone will read the comments in depth and realize its retaliatory, just the rating.

Plus I like banning people. And it's a lot easier justifying it when they do stuff like leave retaliatory feedback. :P
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Old July 20th, 2012, 05:40   #51
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Quick Question guys.

Should a trader rating be given for Gun Doctors and the service provided? Techinically, there is a transaction there, no? ie. parts and stuff for cash?
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Old July 21st, 2012, 01:22   #52
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I feel that if money changed hands in exchange for a good or service, it should warrant a feedback rating. Because technically you did exchange consideration. Does it matter if its for parts? Well maybe, but if money is given, I would consider it a deal.

Fixing more guns eh luder?

Of course someone with much more say than I do should be the final word. Thats just my two cents.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 01:49   #53
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You can leave feedback for Gun Doctoring but be sure to clearly state it in the feedback: someone could be a crappy gun doc but still an honest and trustworthy seller in terms of goods.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 18:29   #54
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I gave a neutral rating today for a flaker. This is the first time I have given a rating lower than a positive. Which speaks volumes for the unprofessionalism of this guy.

This is the second time the user has flaked on me.

In both cases, I have the guy my info so payment can be made. Each time he just flaked on me by ceasing communications. Pretty lame if you ask me.

I understand people flake all the time, and things happen. I understand, but what I do not understand is how hard is it to say "sorry things changed"?

Anyways I left a neutral so other sellers can be aware of this guys crap.

UPDATE: After discussing with the person, I have decided to give the guy benefit of the doubt and take his side of the story at face value.
So I have requested the deletion of my rating.
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Old August 5th, 2020, 10:46   #55
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Old April 16th, 2021, 07:33   #56
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I do not understand at all those people who leave negative reviews because of something that did not suit them or was too expensive for their wallet. It's like going to an expensive restaurant and putting a unit on it because you can't afford to dine there.
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