WOW!!! As a drop-in option, this is really really great news. But as a PTW user and accustomed to the flexibility allowed with the availability of quick takedowns and quick spring/cylinder swaps, this option does have its limitations. Although, if going in to a platform such as the MP5, you automatically negate those two benefits already.
But as an intermediate step between oldschool AEG and a full-on PTW, this is good news and a great innovation in gearbox redesign. It is much welcomed.
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Originally Posted by LUTNIT
Q: will the mechbox shell still blow open from high fps springs?
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I don't think so. Look at the forward section where breakage use to occur - it is now thoroughly reinforced now that the tappet plate space is filled up.
Also, look at how the cylinder head is mounted - it looks like a much more robust design.
The other issue with Systema/Progear-type "reinforced" gearboxes was that the mechanical trigger's rearward motion was stopped (in semi-auto action) by a thin little tab that always managed to snap off. With this new design, that tab is no longer required, which means one more piece of reliability achieved.
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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker
Very cool nozzle/piston head design. Overall I'd love to get one of these, but chances are high it'll cost about the same as a new AEG.
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Although initial thought on that is correct as current complete Systema gearboxes cost over $360 as a landed and stocked item, I believe this Revolution gearbox will cost less than $500 as a landed/stocked price in Canada GIVEN Systema hold true on their statement that "we are working diligently to offer the Revolution in the most competitive pricing."
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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven
I wonder what the fps with be for that item out of the box, and if it will be possible to use other companies springs, or if systema will have a special spring design for the mechbox.
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Like that readup states, it uses a new Systema spring that has a smaller diameter spring. In detail, the spring has a smaller diameter to fit in to the new pistons, which have a thicker wall, and thus, a smaller internal diameter for the spring to fit in. I also hear through the grapevine that this design should be able to handle up to M170 springs... youch!
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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven
Its stated that its backwards compatable with all TM v2 aeg bodies, as far I know TM only has plastic bodies, but I imagine it shouldnt be an issue for those who were able to drop a TM mechbox in a G&P body without any issue, as for other companies I guess we will see but like the info posted says, yes and maybe yes.
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What they meant by that, was that it will fit the MP5 series, M4 series, M16 series, SR16, S-System, and G3 platforms. They weren't saying TM has different body materials.