Yeah. The Vision King 1-5x in particular though has quite a bit higher bottom end magnification than either the china clone (RSOV's, I think) SpectreDR, my Leapers 1-4x, or VCBoy's ACM 1-4x (a clone of my Leapers? or maybe same OEM. It had a couple problems my Leapers didn't, but otherwise seems identical?).
I really think the Vision King is a bit of a different animal because of it.
That Elcan (it's Randy's) has pretty exceptionally usable 1x and 4x, actually, just the exit pupil and eye relief are pretty tiny.
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