View Single Post
Old August 6th, 2010, 10:59   #473
ILLusion
GBB Whisperer
 
ILLusion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Toronto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slono View Post
I didnt' know SD required work. I know their grips could be a pain, but their slides... good to know though.
They don't always require work, but I have noticed variances in tolerances from one batch to another. Generally, their work is good, but there is more consistent and smoothing moving products out there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slono View Post
As for right now I'm getting the urge to replicate the sexy grips in this photo... sandpaper and grip tape are the only materials I would need.

TruGrip grip tape is the closest out of the package solution you can get for this application. Just a bit of shaping to bring down and round out the circumference will give you a pretty close replica.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
it'd be nice for some manufacturer start replicating the new Infinity grips....
I got a quote done for a mould to create a plastic version of these.... I could buy a new car with that.

The metal ones I also got quoted for as a machined product, but because new R&D must be performed from scratch and with the low expected sales volume of said product, the price is actually higher than a real one. It's actually cheaper if I get you a custom frame machined that can accept real steel grips. The changes from a Marui based Hi-Capa system are minimal, and a new custom made mag catch button would also be required, but the upside of this is that it would also allow you to use most other real steel components (trigger, trigger bar, leaf spring, main spring housing, etc)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TaroBear View Post
So this might seem silly, but I'm new to this, so here goes. I've been trying to price out parts and such, seeing what I can put in myself and what needs to be done by a pro. I came across these parts, and I'm wondering if item number one also includes item number two.

Item 1: http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...p?prodid=24036
Item 2: http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...p?prodid=23935

Obviously I don't mean those two exact items, my question is more specifically about the outer barrel also including the chamber. Or is there something I'm missing here?
UNCompany's site is down right now, so without at least the exact product name/description or a link to another product page, I couldn't tell you. But based on your question, the answer would have to be "it depends on the manufacturer."

Some manufacturers (such as Shooters Design) create the barrel set in two pieces to give you an option for different chamber features. You'd buy the barrel you needed (4.3 bull, 5.1 bull, 5.1 straight, 5.1 compensated, 5" threaded, etc) and mate that up with a chamber style you liked (.45 ACP, BAR-STO .45, STI .45, .38 SUPER, INFINITY .45, Kimber style, blank, etc etc.)
The barrel option is then just screwed on to the chamber once you receive it.

Other manufacturers limit the chamber markings and sell a full barrel set in one go. It keeps their costs low (and the product cost is lower in return.) Cheaper versions of such sets are still machined in two parts, and then screwed/welded or pressure fit to each other.
More expensive versions are complete one-piece construction, very much like real steel barrels.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TaroBear View Post
My second question is, what are the recommended brands for metal kits? The main ones I see are Guarder, PGC and VFC. I'm going to discount PGC, since they're crazy expensive and rarely in stock. So between Guarder and PGC, any thoughts?
That depends on specifically which pistol you're working with... single stack or double stack? Although, I'm somehow assuming you're referring to a Marui 1911 (single stack) series.

Guarder is almost always a poor choice, but it's very cheap - you get what you pay for.

PGC is nice, but I'm not liking the finish of their single stack frames too much. They're wobbly and the finish seems to be more of a satin finish rather than matte. The colouration also tends to be more purple than blue-black. PGC doesn't create frames for the double-stack.

VFC's MEU conversion kit, I was very very surprised with. I did a head to head product comparison for MEU conversion kits. The brands covered were Nova, Shooters Design, VFC, Guarder and Hurricane. While the VFC kit wasn't the nicest (trademarks were not the same) out of all the reviewed kits, it installed together the easiest out of all kits, and featured extremely little wobble, even compared to the CNC machined kits and was also among the cheapest of all kits. Overall, the fit, finish and price received some of my highest marks among the group. The only kit I would place above it as far as finish and replica accuracy, would be the Nova kit, although it did require a bit more work to put together and was double the price.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TaroBear View Post
Finally, since I'm again new at this, how much of installing after market parts should I handle myself? Putting my gun together after my first assembly was an....interesting learning experience, to put it politely.
I get asked this all the time, and the answer is always the same: "I can't answer that for you, it depends on your personal skill, mechanical dexterity, and aptitude at figuring out pneumatic-mechanical systems."

With that said, considering the number of times I've seen botched GBB installs, I'd say that building a single stack isn't easy, and is only recommended by more experienced users.

I've even seen experienced AEG gunsmiths completely screw up and lose parts from a GBB build, so that might give you an idea of how difficult it may be.
ILLusion is offline   Reply With Quote