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FiveFingers March 31st, 2008 20:56

i need to know the diffrence...
 
so my head is spinning trying to learn about batteries...
so here is wut i need to know... what is the diffrence between a 8.4 v 1100mah and a 8.4 4200mah can they both be used in the same aeg...

TokyoSeven March 31st, 2008 20:59

Well the simple version is, more mah means the longer your battery will last. Mah also affects your rate of fire, the higher the Mah, the higher the rof, but its nothing insane though.

However depending on what cells each of those batterys are made of, size may vary.

Flabeo March 31st, 2008 21:00

Yes! its just means the cells can hold more.

Torque March 31st, 2008 21:01

are there any questions you dont know the answears to T7? :)

ThunderCactus March 31st, 2008 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flabeo (Post 682371)
Yes! its just means the cells can hold more.

NO, the larger battery will have a significantly higher rate of fire, way too high for a gun thats specifically designed to use a mini battery.
Not to mention its a large battery and wouldn't fit in that MP5 without a fixed stock.

Non Credo April 1st, 2008 21:07

It may also effect the liquidity of your switch.

Cheesevillage April 1st, 2008 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 682390)
NO, the larger battery will have a significantly higher rate of fire, way too high for a gun thats specifically designed to use a mini battery.
Not to mention its a large battery and wouldn't fit in that MP5 without a fixed stock.

I'd beg to differ. There are fullstock versions of basically every mechbox version.

Chinasoft, thought, may be a different story.

ThunderCactus April 1st, 2008 22:03

Ever try running a stock G36 off a 4200mah large battery? lol
Some guns were designed to be used with mini batteries.

Caped_crusadar April 2nd, 2008 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 683558)
Ever try running a stock G36 off a 4200mah large battery? lol
Some guns were designed to be used with mini batteries.

yep, i have a 9.6v 4200 mah battery for my CA m15, and i had a small to large converter so we all decided to try it out on my friends CA g36, and it worked just fine.

Cheesevillage April 2nd, 2008 00:18

Lets assume for the purposes of this discussion that all TM mechboxes are the same.

A mini will always have more trigger lag and lower ROF. On a stock spring any gun should outlast the user.

Also, 4200 is a very extreme example. I'm likening my experience to an AK (which is same as G36) with a 8.4v 3300mah GP cell large or my MP5 with basicly the same battery.

kalnaren April 2nd, 2008 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 683558)
Ever try running a stock G36 off a 4200mah large battery? lol
Some guns were designed to be used with mini batteries.

CA36 was more or less designed with a large battery in mind. The only reason it uses a small is because there isn't physically anywhere on the gun to put a large battery.

MP5's can swap between large/small batteries without issue.

I've also seen AUG's, which are "designed" with a small battery, use a large battery with no issue whatsoever.

Also, 4200Mah is huge even for a large battey. A small is 1500, hell twice that is 3,000 mah, and I've seen upgraded guns run all day no problem on a 2,400 Mah. I used to run my upgraded FA-MAS all day on an 1,800 mah large. Why anyone would ever require 4,200 is beyond me.

Cheesevillage April 2nd, 2008 00:28

Fuck it all the same. Its all about mechbox version. Just forget gun model.

V1 to 8 no AEP mechboxes are fine with large batteries :P

kalnaren April 2nd, 2008 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheesevillage (Post 683692)
Fuck it all the same. Its all about mechbox version. Just forget gun model.

Replace CA36/AUG with V3, MP5 with V2, and FA-MAS with V1, problem solved. :)

Azriel_Strife April 2nd, 2008 01:11

Basically the only real difference between a large and small battery is the individual cells on a larger battery have less internal resistance, this increases the gearboxes response to the trigger pull, seriously reducing trigger lag. The mah rating on the battery is basically like the capacity in a car's gas tank. Bigger gas tank, longer range.

In the case of standard batteries, bigger is usually better. However, Iv'e never seen the need for anything over 2000mah. I run a 1200mah Ni-cd in my 370FPS AK and it lasts 10-12 hicap mags on average.

If you can, go with a large type. If not, just don't cheap out when buying a mini type. The mini types genrally have a slower maximum discharge rate due to higher internal resistance. This maximum discharge rate is that initial burst of energy that starts your mechbox up really fast.

TokyoSeven April 2nd, 2008 01:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torque (Post 682372)
are there any questions you dont know the answears to T7? :)

As long as you promise not to ask any additional questions in regards to my answers. Then my answer is no, there is no question I do not know the answer to. However, the validity of my answer varies greatly in regards to how versed I am with the subject of the question.

In regards to internal resistence think of it this way. Internal resistance is not a constant, not entirely atleast. Lets put it in the perspective of the more you push, the more it pushes back. It can get a little confusing.
But theres a whole buncha other crazy factors to think of as well, such as free radicals and theta radiation.


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