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Midma January 28th, 2010 15:06

Just a forum: http://jtf2-reenactment.forumactif.net/forum.htm

For who are really interested by JTF-2 forces. :)

Midma

Short Round February 3rd, 2010 07:55

I find it weird that jtf2 is never mentioned in the media, let alone seen.

Frozen Tex February 3rd, 2010 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Najohn (Post 1156411)
I find it weird that jtf2 is never mentioned in the media, let alone seen.

If you see them, they're not doing it right.

In the US, for a long time (maybe still) it was government policy to not even admit to the existence of the top level teams, i.e. Delta Force, Seal Team 6, etc... Whereas the Canadian government puts "pictures" of JTF2 on the Forces' website along with FAQs about recruiting standards... and MPs/Ministers occasionally open their yaps and blab about where the team is and what it's doing.

Mr.Shiney February 3rd, 2010 08:22

What is weird about that. A do you want a Special Warfare Unit the is required to perform Covert and Secretive Taskings posted all over bill boards. Up until the Princess Gate OP: NIMROD almost no one had heard of the Special Air Services Regiment. With the exception of WW2 Exploits.

The less the public knows about what, where, when who and how the better.

pugs144 February 3rd, 2010 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Najohn (Post 1156411)
I find it weird that jtf2 is never mentioned in the media, let alone seen.

There's nothing weird about it at all. They don't have the same PR machine that USSOCOM does nor do they want one.

I have to chuckle at the offshore forum dedicated to 'JTF2 Loadouts' given that pics of guys from the unit are rarer than rocking horse shit. I don't expect a lot of posting activity there LOL.

Pirate February 3rd, 2010 10:15

The biggest reason you know so much about the US Special Forces is that they have a large enough force that they don't rely on being as anonymous. You still don't hear about most of their exploits, only major ops that don't need secrecy. I think you'd be hard pressed still to find the actual identities of current SOCOM Operators, not sure about retired. JTF2 is much much smaller and can't risk having anything be mentioned in the media for it runs a risk to operators and their families. The SAS were veiled in similar secrecy. Only a few have written books (mainly andy mcnabb...not his real name) and it is still questioned the accuracy of most of these accounts. Hence it is always funny when on everybody that posts a JTF2 video on youtube, everybody has a cousin or uncle or friend of a friend on JTF2. That would make them larger than all of the CF.

Short Round February 3rd, 2010 12:07

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Originally Posted by Godfather (Post 1156453)
The biggest reason you know so much about the US Special Forces is that they have a large enough force that they don't rely on being as anonymous. You still don't hear about most of their exploits, only major ops that don't need secrecy. I think you'd be hard pressed still to find the actual identities of current SOCOM Operators, not sure about retired. JTF2 is much much smaller and can't risk having anything be mentioned in the media for it runs a risk to operators and their families. The SAS were veiled in similar secrecy. Only a few have written books (mainly andy mcnabb...not his real name) and it is still questioned the accuracy of most of these accounts. Hence it is always funny when on everybody that posts a JTF2 video on youtube, everybody has a cousin or uncle or friend of a friend on JTF2. That would make them larger than all of the CF.

wow I didnt realize JTF2 is only 17 years old. I just would expect them to get a mention hear and there.

pugs144 February 3rd, 2010 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Najohn (Post 1156501)
I just would expect them to get a mention hear and there.

Only if you have a security clearance, you might.

Capt.Flan February 3rd, 2010 16:57

Intel briefings by officers overseas ( In main bases. ) are done in front of some people ( officers/chain of command/intel civilians, secret services etc...) and they are not even aware if a JTF2 member is in the meeting and/or absolutely do not know his identity by any matter.

Most missions they get is directly from the top of the chain of command and CSIS.

Capt.Flan February 3rd, 2010 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godfather (Post 1156453)
The biggest reason you know so much about the US Special Forces is that they have a large enough force that they don't rely on being as anonymous. You still don't hear about most of their exploits, only major ops that don't need secrecy. I think you'd be hard pressed still to find the actual identities of current SOCOM Operators, not sure about retired. JTF2 is much much smaller and can't risk having anything be mentioned in the media for it runs a risk to operators and their families. The SAS were veiled in similar secrecy. Only a few have written books (mainly andy mcnabb...not his real name) and it is still questioned the accuracy of most of these accounts. Hence it is always funny when on everybody that posts a JTF2 video on youtube, everybody has a cousin or uncle or friend of a friend on JTF2. That would make them larger than all of the CF.

Well said.

Tom Swift April 19th, 2010 12:55

Couple Photos of JTF2 on a PSD with Stephen Harper in Afghanistan

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6769/32798551ru5.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3940/32798541pd2.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6335/32798345cl6.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6101/32798486ar2.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7678/32798421yt8.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2310/32798503hv8.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6509/32798398wn9.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8233/32798487oi7.jpg

Thought some people might appreciate these, they look to be wearing Paraclete RAV's not sure which generation/model.

Phil_Black April 20th, 2010 21:50

good pict'S

I just like to know why most of the pictures showing JTF2 or else unit doing personal protection are not using optics ?

FOX_111 April 20th, 2010 21:57

Because they will be shooting reactively at close targets and will get the F-out with the PM. While the regular troop on perimeter duty will do the long range shooting.

Huron April 20th, 2010 23:32

Well from all the pictures I've seen of them doing PSD (either with MacKay or Harper), they've been running the 10 inch suppressed rifles with the rail-mounted carry handle (Colt not Diemaco). Dunno why that is but it explains the lack of optics, running optics on the handguard rail is fairly unwieldy. One of the 4 guys I've seen running that rifle setup had an EOTech on it though.

Tom Swift April 20th, 2010 23:33

I just wish we had more pictures and knew more about them, from what I understand and have read they did a good sum of some of the hardest fighting in Iraq. Is it fair to say they on the same operational level as DEVGRU?

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Originally Posted by GabeGuitarded (Post 1216384)
Well from all the pictures I've seen of them doing PSD (either with MacKay or Harper), they've been running the 10 inch suppressed rifles with the rail-mounted carry handle (Colt not Diemaco). Dunno why that is but it explains the lack of optics, running optics on the handguard rail is fairly unwieldy. One of the 4 guys I've seen running that rifle setup had an EOTech on it though.

I thought the carry handles were fixed, they seem to be a trend in JTF2 photos sometimes an EOtech or Aimpoint on the rail ahead of the fixed carry handle.


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