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Balzerk07 October 14th, 2005 15:55

SR-16, Can't Figure Out Whats Wrong
I recently purchased an upgraded SR-16 off a buddy of mine. When I first got the gun it worked fine, it was a little sluggish but I assume thats because of the heavy spring. I took it out to Flag Raiders October 9th. It was working fine for a couple of shots but it was whining a bit. I was told when this happens to adjust the small screw in the bottom of the SR-16 grip. I did that and I was starting to notice a differnece in the sound. Then I pulled the trigger and nothing... No click, no motor trying to turn over or anything. I checked all the connections, everything is fine. Note; I have no fuse, so it cant be blown, I know not having a fuse is stupid but I didnt realize it didn't have one the fuse until now.

At the game Poncho had a look at it, he pulled out the motor and pulled the trigger to see if there was any life in it. Nothing. He suggested that it was either the motor or possibly an internal fuse in the gearbox of some sort? He also mentioned something about the trigger switch being melted together and that may be causing the problem.

That night after the game I took a motor out of my M4 and tried it in the SR-16, once again nothing. So then I figured I would just strip down the gun completely to see if anything looked wrong internally. Inside the mechbox everything looks fine to me. But seeing as how I only have limited knowledge with mechboxs I may have over looked something. So here I'am now posting this hoping that someone has some idea on how to fix it, or what I should do or try next.

Pictures of the mechbox are available at this URL

Primus October 14th, 2005 17:41

Have you checked the wiring leading from the full stock to the mechbox to see if anything funky is going on there? If the fuse isn't there anymore that means someone had to solder, twist together, etc the wires so maybe something is wrong there.

Apart from all that shit on the spring and spring guide I can't see anything really wrong with the mechbox guts...

CDN_Stalker October 14th, 2005 17:45

Could just be your contacts are dirty. I had the same problem with an M733, had intermittant voltage/continuity in semi mode, but nothing in full auto. After a few attempts at fixing the problem without opening the mechbox, I said fuck it and ripped the mechbox open and got access to all the contact points. A few Q-tips loaded with lighter fluid later, I put it all back together and had it firing 100% in both modes.

Contacts need cleaning once in awhile, if corrosion or grease happen to build up on the contacts, the gun will stop doing anything when you pull the trigger, making it seem like a broken fuse or a dead battery.

BTW, Greylocks taught me this a couple years ago, figured I'd mention this because he's not just a "crusty, old, flaming chairsofter who doesn't play anymore", he's got a fair bit of knowledge on inner workings of mechboxes. Not that he let's on anymore. ;)

Balzerk07 October 14th, 2005 17:58

The wiring I have also checked and I have seen no damage or wear. The piece of wiring where the fuse used to be has been replaced with a whole new piece with new connectors so there are no wires which are twisted together.

I will look at the contacts right now and give them a good cleaning. Thank you both for your input and I will post again if this does the trick.

CDN_Stalker October 14th, 2005 20:35

Good luck!

denli21 October 16th, 2005 23:31

i had this problem with my TM M4A1, it turned out to be one of the connectors for the motor that came loose...just used some needle nose pliars to crimp the clip and got it it working 100%...

Balzerk07 October 17th, 2005 00:17

Cleaned the connectors and the gun is working fine once again. Thanks everyone for your help :mrgreen:

Greylocks October 17th, 2005 06:34

stev0__ October 27th, 2005 10:55

i am having the same issue as well and was just wondering what the exact locations of all the connectors were?

FNG October 27th, 2005 11:38

You have what can only be described as 'a shitload' of grease in there. Possibly when your firing some of it is making its way to the trigger connections. You could try cleaning it up then regreasing a little less. Good luck.

Valcrow October 27th, 2005 12:49

Take out the little plate thing under the pistol grip and check the wires that connect to the motor in the grip. And when you put it back make sure the screws are tight or it'll make a horrible grinding noise and wear out your motor gears.

Droc November 3rd, 2005 08:23

my gun has perma scream
sometimes its unavoidable. super-torque gears with such a high spring can cause it to scream like a prom queen. a new handgrip can help, it allows for more precise motor placment then the shitty TM one.

ThatIsWhat July 21st, 2008 22:30

I realize this thread is old but ive got the same problem. My motor won't even turn when i remove the mechbox and ive cleaned all the contacts and charged the battery. How can I tell if the motor's burnt out?

kalnaren July 21st, 2008 22:36

Plug the motor right into the battery?

The Saint July 21st, 2008 22:37

Does your motor turn when you remove it from the mechbox but leave the wires attached? That would at least tell you whether your motor's completely dead or not, though keep in mind that a broken motor can still spin under no load.

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