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Huge October 27th, 2009 18:22

Chechen rebel
 
Hey there

I decided to follow the idea someone gave me and will start a Chechen rebel loadout. Now there is a lot of pics on the internet showing chechen rebels but they all seem to have different loadouts so I guess i'mlooking for something generic that could resemble a rebel from Chechnya.

For now I have the AK and Chicom chest rig which I think are both pretty necessary for a rebel loadout. Now, what else shall I wear? For BDU I was thinking a Russian BDU like VSR or Flora, but a lot of photos show them wearing much more common camo patterns (woodland etc.) and sometimes they're just plain OD. I was thinking, maybe OD pants and black shirt or something along those lines.

Some also tell me to wear a shemagh but I have yet to see actual Chechen rebels wear it.

Anyways here are a couple pics to help with the process.

http://ruvr.ru/files/Image/RUSSIA/ch...bel-arrest.jpg
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2...7842680816.jpg
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multime...ov1_62386a.jpg

Frozen Tex October 27th, 2009 18:25

Head to the costume store and get a clip-on beard... :D

Huge October 27th, 2009 18:26

haha actually I'm starting to have the beard so that probably wont be a problem for the next game.

-Skeletor- October 27th, 2009 18:35

For uniforms you can pretty much wear whatever combo you want as they had no real set standard just a mix of different uniforms/camos, etc of whatever they could get their hands on.

An as for the shemagh, yea I haven't seen any pics of them wearing the scarf either.



Also, are you going for the Chechen Rebel fighting in Chechnya? Or Chechen Rebel in Afghanistan fighting with Taliban an Al Qaeda?

Frozen Tex October 27th, 2009 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Skeletor- (Post 1093222)
For uniforms you can pretty much wear whatever combo you want as they had no real set standard just a mix of different uniforms/camos, etc of whatever they could get their hands on.

An as for the shemagh, yea I haven't seen any pics of them wearing the scarf either.



Also, are you going for the Chechen Rebel fighting in Chechnya? Or Chechen Rebel in Afghanistan fighting with Taliban an Al Qaeda?

In that case you'll need the shemagh, floppy felt hat, and manjamas... :D

But for camo, try to get mismatched stuff; even if the pieces are the same pattern, wash the sh*t outta one piece and go easy on another.

-Skeletor- October 27th, 2009 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frozen Tex (Post 1093227)
In that case you'll need the shemagh, floppy felt hat, and manjamas... :D


that floppy felt hat - Pakol is only worn by Afghans in Northern Afghanistan I believe. In Kandahar I didn't see any Afghans wearing the Pakol just a smaller type hat forget the name an turbans. An they'd probably be wearing their woodland BDUs not the Manjamies altough that could be possible if they are trying to blend in.

Huge October 27th, 2009 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frozen Tex (Post 1093227)
In that case you'll need the shemagh, floppy felt hat, and manjamas... :D

But for camo, try to get mismatched stuff; even if the pieces are the same pattern, wash the sh*t outta one piece and go easy on another.

haha yeah that'd be an idea, although I do have a very old and used pair of woodland pants but they're tight as hell so I'd look stupid.

Frozen Tex October 27th, 2009 19:06

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Originally Posted by Huge94 (Post 1093238)
haha yeah that'd be an idea, although I do have a very old and used pair of woodland pants but they're tight as hell so I'd look stupid.

Disco Rebel!

peacekeeper October 27th, 2009 19:56

there militia varoius in camo and weapons , i think it depends on what weapons depot they stole from or what they picked off the dead , i have seen everything from mauser rifles to old shotguns to state of the art weaponry . I think perty much works as long as its warsaw pact weapons or shotguns or antuques .

BootYourFace October 27th, 2009 20:50

VSR or Kamysh camo.

Huge October 27th, 2009 23:22

yep VSr or Kamysh were pretty much my top 2 choices. I stumbled upon seemingly very rare Chechen patches on Ebay, dunno if ill buy them since they probably are new and dont really reflect the Rebel type.

anyways, great input guys, keep it coming

Frozen Tex October 27th, 2009 23:30

Get a dark blue track jacket...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/625000..._rebels300.jpg
Some mud...
http://antohins.vtheatre.net/pix/1999.jpg
A knitted balaclava...
http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/f/f...hen_rebels.jpg
A green headband...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/...06_228x325.jpg
And a lovely fur hat!
http://www.historycommons.org/events...1722-15065.jpg

And don't forget to stand in front of the missileers when you tell them to fire...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...hen_rebels.jpg
:D

Huge October 27th, 2009 23:31

do I also have to do the thumbs up?

Conscript October 28th, 2009 01:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Skeletor- (Post 1093229)
that floppy felt hat - Pakol is only worn by Afghans in Northern Afghanistan I believe. In Kandahar I didn't see any Afghans wearing the Pakol just a smaller type hat forget the name an turbans. An they'd probably be wearing their woodland BDUs not the Manjamies altough that could be possible if they are trying to blend in.

Pakol's are actually everywhere, southern Iranian Balochi's, Pakistani's, Afghani's even frigging Bosnians as seen here (Nice DDR belt too)

http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/u...rk_292x235.jpg

Bandit October 28th, 2009 03:17

Frozen Tex, you are my new favorite person.

I hope to get my clip-on beard and lovely fur hat soon!

aznpos531 October 28th, 2009 03:26

Lots of Kimbo fans in Chechnya :p

-Skeletor- October 28th, 2009 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conscript (Post 1093474)
Pakol's are actually everywhere

Actually I've been to Afghanistan an spent a lot of time in Zhari/Panjwai an I didn't see 1 Pakol. From my observations the Pakol isn't very common in Southern Afghanistan. From what I remember hearing was that the Pakol is more common in Northern Afghanistan not sure about the Western or Eastern Provinces.

Conscript October 28th, 2009 14:50

Panjwai is southern Afghanistan, from all the photos and accounts I have seen, they are common amongst villagers in the eastern side of Afghanistan, especially around mountainous regions of Pakistan and the Khyber Pass. Iranian Balochi's wear something similar to a Pakol, but not in the same style.

It's mainly used amongst either tribal men in Afghanistan, or elsewhere by Mujahdeen, hence why there are Islamic Bosnians sporting the pakol in the picture I posted. Soviet's were also seen with Afghani Marxists wearing Pakol's throughout the invasion in numerous photos.

-Skeletor- October 28th, 2009 15:49

Yes, I know Panjwai is in Southern Afghanistan. I've been there, an thats what I was trying to get across in my comments earliar. Just saying I didn't see one Pakol when I was there.

And what you are saying about them being common certain tribal areas an in the mountains is what I've heard aswell.



Anyways, I still don't know what the hat that I saw the majority of guys wearing, but here's a pic of it
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6636/usmc324.jpg

Akinnen November 6th, 2009 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conscript (Post 1093474)
Pakol's are actually everywhere, southern Iranian Balochi's, Pakistani's, Afghani's even frigging Bosnians as seen here (Nice DDR belt too)

http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/u...rk_292x235.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conscript (Post 1093715)
It's mainly used amongst either tribal men in Afghanistan, or elsewhere by Mujahdeen, hence why there are Islamic Bosnians sporting the pakol in the picture I posted.

This is just insanely wrong. No Bosnian Muslims wear pakul.

Some of foreign fighters in last war had them, but this picture you poster is not Bosnian Muslim soldiers or even foreign mujaheed. In picture they wear russian gear, and standing next to helicopter, guy looks like Afghan or Pakistani. Bosnian Muslims didn't use russian camo, no pakul hats. And on other hand foreign fighters didn't had any helicopters.

Where did you get this from? :banghead:

Conscript November 6th, 2009 12:27

I got it straight off another forum, he has a bunch of pictures of DDR gear in usage, I have never seen any Afghans or Pakistani's in Russian camo, or that have access to helicopters.

DDR gear was mainly exported to Turkey and the Balkans after the fall. I still stand by my first observation. The guy behind him seems to have lighter toned skin and a reddish coloured beard, more likely to find guys like him in the Balkans versus Afghanistan.

Akinnen November 6th, 2009 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conscript (Post 1099441)
I got it straight off another forum, he has a bunch of pictures of DDR gear in usage, I have never seen any Afghans or Pakistani's in Russian camo, or that have access to helicopters.

DDR gear was mainly exported to Turkey and the Balkans after the fall. I still stand by my first observation.

I don't understand what observation, I'm not commenting anything about DDR gear. I'm just telling you the fact you can not go and say look this picture it's Bosnian Muslim wearing pakul.

It's like I post some Mexican guy with sombrero on his head and say look, this is Canadian MP. Guy on your picture don't look European at all. And just his style can say this is far from Bosnia. You are right about DDR gear, but this photo explanation you give here is wrong. NHF

BUT looking at other guy I could say maybe Chechenya or US SF operator.

Montana13AofS January 7th, 2010 16:57

Chechens dress simply

especially they love in the summer KLMK berezka

use any weapon
especially love the AK-74 with GP-30
shave their heads and grow beards
pistols prefer Stechkin
handling system prefer the NATO sample

Montana13AofS January 7th, 2010 17:00

Yes for help
with green headbands, they do not run long
year from 2005

Sasha January 26th, 2010 13:44

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdHnGWbh5fI

This is a Russian mini-series on one of the various wars in Chechnya. It's all in Russian, and good luck finding English subtitles, but it does give some nice impressions of both Russian and Chechnyan soldiers. Santa costumes not withstanding.

Huge August 1st, 2010 20:46

bumping this thread to see if anyone else has another idea

Just acquired a new AK and assembling a Chechen loadout at the moment. It will look dirty and mismatched which is perfect.


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