CYMA Sig Sauer 556 from Section 8 sports
 

Thinking about purchasing this: (and yes i'm 18) http://www.section8sports.ca/compone...d=656&vmcchk=1
Thoughts on quality, compatibility and price?

hm, we had a discussion about section 8 on the EAR boards. called them up, none of their stuff was in stock at the time and I dont think they renewed yet, this was only a week and a half ago and I guess they didnt get the memo about selling all blacks, its pretty sketchy, they are a paintball store, they dont know much about airsoft. buy at your own risk but I advise not to

ADDITION: Also their legal/liability is built straight off american law not canadian.

again, sketchy

Well the quality of the gun itself seems good, based on CYMAs nowadays.

The price is decent.

As for the quality of the seller, I would advice against buying from them, they seem, as Assault Pioneer put it, sketchy.

TBH I think it's kind of overpriced. However I'm used to getting something higher quality for just slightly more.

If you're 18+ then definitely think about getting AV'ed. I bought mine for $450 and it's SWEET (not as sweet as my teammates PTW's though but still nonetheless my gundoc is amazed at what I got my M4 for).

They're a legit business, not like one of those drive by night "stores" however it's a slippery slope what they're doing.

If you mentioned Cyma a few years ago, people would have simply told you that you were wasting your money. Now a days I'm not sure what to say about them. Either they are just a bad as they were a few years ago and everyone else just lowered their standards, or its quite possible that they have made some improvements in their products. My money is on lower standards but that's just my own personal opinion.

On the topic of compatibility I'm not entirely sure what you mean, are you asking about external or internals? Externally I have no idea, internally I could hazard a guess and say that most after market internals made for the version 3 mechbox should work just fine, "should being the key word.


Price? Personally I believe that the money that you would use to purchase that could be put towards something a few more rungs up the quality ladder.

Yea I was talking more about internals, and I was thinking that it seemed a little overpriced too.

How is it overpriced? its a full metal gun, cansoft guns go for more sometimes. Cyma has greatly improved over the years.

BUT

I wouldn't trust that site, they obviously don't know the laws concerning airsoft and that they will be shut down pretty soon. I also don't like the idea that any kidiot can use mommy's credit card and order from them.

If you speak with them and they do in fact have it in stock then, by all means buy it (if you are 18+ of course) as it is a good deal

as far as specs and compatability go....google?

because you are av'd and know what real airsoft in canada costs right? what are you comparing it to? us and asian prices? buycrapsoft.com's prices?

Take it easy there pusangani, I was comparing it to what I think a similar/ similarly performing M4 might cost.

1. it's not an m4 so I don't know why we would assume you were comparing it to that

2. full metal cyma's in the retailer section are around the same price - don't know where you would see it priced cheaper in canada that you say it seems overpriced

That's your problem right there. You have no idea about prices.

May seem harsh what were saying here, but it doesn't take away from the fact their right. Does $1200 for a PTW seem overpriced to you? The answer will probably be yes because you wouldn't know what the market value actually is in country yet. Don't take it personally or anything, its just the fact that your not AV'ed and our community comprises the majority of the entire Airsoft entity in this country. Inclusive is our classifieds section which is restricted to those who are Age Verified (AV'ed). If you want more info on that, theres are stickies all over the board.

Well it would appear that I was wrong about the price, I guess that I was just acting on my opinion. I'll take the opinion of the community on this one as most of you have been airsofting much longer than I have.

1) Cyma doesn't make a SG556
2) It's a Sig SG556, not a Sig Sauer
3) The website's drop down bars on the left piss me off.



So CYMA doesn't make that gun. It's either a JP or a King Arms.



It's not a king arms...

Yes, the drop down bars are incredibly stupid, and thanks for telling me that CYMA doesn't make a SIG SG556. The more I hear/ look into Section 8 the more they look sketchy.

Personally, I'd stay away from Section 8. Bit of a risk IMO. Their Laws are based off of American Laws and not Canada's .

As for the price, its decent. I'd look on better - err well know and trusted sites for guns.

HEY!!! This is a Lethbridge Alberta store and guess what? I am from Lethbridge Alberta!!! Yaya!

So I will answere some questions:

I have been inside the store! It is a store with high regard in the paintball arena, and new to airsoft.
I bought my Sig 552 comando from them! At $280 though it was steep, most my friends got ripped off, err bought from them. Since that they lowered prices.
Nothing is in stock most of the time! They get orders in and wait till thats gone, then re-order.
Great personal interactions! They have been quite willing to work with me and my group of friends, lower ridiculouse prices and willing to exchange or credit malfuntioned products.They asked us to bring in a tornado to show them what we use, and really listen to the customer base we provide for them.

If you want one of any of thier models I would call to make sure its on the shelf behind them (ya get a photo of it in store) and then order. I thought they would have been shut down a long time ago as well, due to the questionable legality. A mauzer my friend got was actually tested by RCMP in Sask. and so I know they have been looked at by officials, also I talked with a local officer about my guns and he said 'I think I know wich ones your talking about' so I believe local officials are aware. The mauzer was purchased around Feb this year and 5 or 6 orders have come and gone.

This place may not last! I recomend that if anyone on this sight would like one of thier products that they pm me and ask me to do an inquirey into that model and when it would be in stock. They may ask for money before ordering, this is sketchy if your in Ontario and so I suggest that you make sure its in country before transaction. Like I said pm me and I can call, wander over or even take a photo for ya.

They have alot available and the ordering magazines on the counter, I'll run down there this weekend and flip through to find out if the 556 is cyma or what. I'll be honest with you if you pm me so feel free to inquire.

Awesome, thanks buddy =)

CyberGun does too.

So this product below must be a rebrand?
http://www.kapowwe.com/Merchant2/mer...s&Store_Code=R

Everything from CyberGun is a rebrand. They don't make guns, they're just a name.

Correct me if Im wrong Con Murder, but aren't you underage? If thats the case then they are selling airsoft to minors, something needs to be done about that.

Did you even bother looking at the link?

Hey Rock'n Roll, I am actually 24 and ya I need to get AV'd but I did not say I would sell a gun. No, to be clear I only want to be PMed if a seriouse and AV'd ACS user is considering a transaction with them.

Been led down some false trails when trying to get AV'd and so it's been on the back burner. When I do though, would it be unsportsman like to buy section 8 guns just to resell on this sight?

Ahh well my mistake then.

And about selling off guns your self, its your choice I guess but since people would know where your getting your guns from in country and can do price checks it wouldn't be business savvy to do so.

I was just making a comment.

However, CYMA/JP might be the same company, who knows. It's Chinese made.

Oh of course, I mean I would assume they found them at the 8 sight and then found me. Anyway I would just do it to help guys get some peace of mind when getting thier product from 8. You see I play guitar and often get screwed from local shops mark up, I outsource from my buddies all over canada to get a good deal not more mark up.

I still wouldn't trust them. Maybe I lived in Lethbridge I would be more inclined to trust them. I inquired about items not only airsoft, and the phone operator was not able to give me prices on any of the items. The money transition is very sketchy in my opinion, especially all the way from BC. That's just my 2 cents from looking at them for a few months.

It seems like the items that have prices are instock while out of stock items have no price.

Makes sense that way. Howd you find out? Did cha give em a call?

well thanks for the info guys, section 8 does seem a little suspicious, but i'm still a little confused, does CYMA make a 556?

I Did not call them but it just apears that way from the site

Yes, the Sig 556, Sig SG556, or whatever you would like to call it is made for Cybergun by CYMA and legally trademarked with Sig trades on the body, stock, and magazines.

People are correct in saying that Cybergun does not actually produce any of its airsoft. They do have it made by JG, CYMA, D-Boys, A&K, AGM, and a few others and then legally trademarks as they own the rights to about 24 different trademarks worldwide.

As for Section 8, I spoken with the owner several times and corresponded with him via email. They do not get in large quantities of anything at one time, and they do not import any black airsoft on their own. All of the black airsoft guns they get come from a source in Canada that imports them. As long as they have the model in stock that you want, you will get it provided you are 18+.

? Uhh? Sketch factor just went up, I was told something different than augiedoggy... I live local to them and no, I'm not ordering through them. Not if they want my money first.

when ordering anything online, don't you pay first?

I think he means pre-ordering since they don't have much, if anything, in-country.

Ya, not in the back and not on the wall. "Be here in 3-6 weeks, debit or credit?"
Not happening.

lol 3-6 weeks? wtf fuck that shit

Can you prove that? I'd buy a CYMA 556, but not a JP one.

What does it matter? It's pretty decent quality, I'll see for myself when I get some in soon.

Con Murder, whats up?
 

Hello friends.
This is my first foray into forums so excuse me please, for any noobish reason I may give you. I use quality ICS and MdBull .25 or .28 bbs only, mid caps and a lesser SIG that has been worked up to 380fps with .2 all this I learned from here. I am a noob though, be kind.
I was asked by the fellows at section8 to post here about MY experiences and I will. I got a gun with a friend the very first time I walked in, so did my friend. We spent $300 each and were pleased by the service, I had been on this sight before and knew the tales of black guns for sale and some crack downs. But this was 2008 like June or July. They exchanged my friends AK47 because some wiring got messed, he got an M4 in exchange.
Next I heard the were importing some Mauzer Snipers that broke 500fps with .12g (I don't use .12g its just the box rating) so RCMP had them in Saskatchewan for some testing or something. Sure enough early 2009 up on the shelf for sale and successfully imported.
Today I spoke with them (I needed a part, they gave me the new Wires and connectors for free) and they told me about this mess, here on a forum I consult. I was disturbed a local didn't give them the respect they always gave their customers. I have watched as paintballers are given full service on all levels from hosting games to sponsoring. For airsofters I knew a guy whos pistol broke 2 weeks before moving to Saskatchewan. Section8 sent it back for service and then forwarded it to him, and it broke again. When section8 got it they couldn't do it on warranty again so they special ordered the nozzle and sent it up to him. For three months they fought for a customer who moved away. Thats good service.
Section8 has told me that they are able to do a full warranty for 30 days, when I mentioned how often it can be noob users and a user based malfunction the owner agreed, but didn't even think of stopping the 30 day warranty. This is our local supporters and they don't want a bad report.

Con I know you and I will talk with you. You have not done business with Section8 you stand around and look at stuff. Oh by the way, got my speed loader?

Dante,

Yes, I can verify CYMA as the manufacturer, but I can't publicly post any details due to my position within the industry. My employer does not like us to publicly state who we work for, plus I don't want 800 PM's for people asking about every gun on the planet. I hope you understand my reasoning.

Let's not single anyone out here. So far Con Murder has simply stated that when he was in there physically they didn't have anything in stock regularly. Considering you were asked by Section 8, and have basically just repeated what Con already said (Great customer service, order things in randomly) it makes me wonder what this is all about.

All that's been said is nobody has ordered anything yet and that it seems strange to have to pay for something that should be in stock but instead will take "3-6 weeks" and has American laws posted. As stated he actually has bought something from there, so no he does not just "stand around and look at stuff". I'm not friends with the guy, and most likely will never meet him, but you seem to have singled him out for no other reason than to ask for your speed loader back.