Falcon brand precision inner barrel for 1911?
 

Anyone use this barrel? Thinking of getting it, although it comes with a hop up rubber, I'm not sure if it'll be any good, but it might be worth a shot before switching to a Firefly one. Which reminds me: the hop up should be a 'soft' type, right? Hard is for high fps guns, soft is for lower fps if I understood correctly.

had them in my WE m4s and they worked pretty good for the price.

I had one. Didn't like it. The surface finish was relatively rough compared to other brands, and I also saw some scratches inside the one I had. To me, that indicated a very soft metal that wasn't durable. Not something I want in my guns.

GREAT price, though... if that's all you care about, then they could work, but me personally, I would rather just stick with a stock Marui barrel, which are actually manufactured very well.

I don't have a marui barrel though :( lol. What kind of barrel would you suggest i put into it? I want a 6.03 ideally. I'm not sure if I want to go silencer or compensator. How do comp's get installed anyway?

Nine Ball

Comps are typically attached to the outer barrel (in an ideal setup), but there are a few alternative setups that might attach to the slide, to the frame, or in airsoft, it can attach to an extended inner barrel as well.

How do they compare with PDI palsonite 6.01 barrels?

The Nine Ball ones are manufactured to a better tolerance, have a higher polish, and a bit better accuracy.

The PDI Palsonite 01 has higher power, and has a much harder finish. It's less likely to scratch do to the Palsonite process.

Palsonite is to stainless steel as anodizing is to aluminum.

To the outer barrel? How so? Is it an extended outer barrel, or does it come with the comp kit?

How would the Tanio Koba hop-twist ones compare to Nineball/PDI, Brian?

Comp-ready outer barrels usually have some type of threading at the end of it, and may also have a secondary interfacing structure to secure the compensator to the desired orientation. This prevents it from twisting out of place. In a real gun, the compensator may be welded in place.

For skirmish use, the Tanio Koba Twist barrels are still one of the best barrels you can get for <1Joule setups. The inner bore of these is around 6.04mm.

So I need an outer barrel with threading then, correct? Have any good ones on hand, or know of a good brand for it?

I do have good ones on hand (ILLusion Kinetics brand), but they're paired with a matched slide and compensator set.

I can get just the barrel alone, but at this time, I won't be making any new orders for the next month or so due to a residential move.

Specifically, what 1911 do you have? You may run into a compatibility problem with your slide, depending on the brand.

The alternative, if you're willing to run a longer inner barrel through, is adapters that clamp on to the extended inner barrel. I think I have a few of these left in stock. It basically adds a 14mm threading to the gun, so you can use any standard compensator you can find onto it. The downside to this, is that it does add weight to the muzzle, and if you have a traditional tilting barrel, it can create cycling problems. I can only recommend this if you pair it with a fixed model outer barrel like the ILLusion Kinetics ones. You don't even need to run an inner barrel all the way through... you just need one that's barely long enough for the adapter to clamp on to.

It's still my Army 1911, but I'm planning to start swapping the slide next month after my credit card flips, so I've got a lot to deal with on it. New slide, for one, new bbu, sights (still unsure of type and style), inner+outer barrel, and I'm thinking of using a compensator but I'm not sure how it'd look on the Shuey Custom slide. If it doesn't fit at all on my pistol then I'll have no choice but to get a new frame, but I really like how mine feels right now, so I'm really hoping the slide will fit without too much issue. I don't care if it's got a little wiggle room, but I will if it jams up on me or if it just bounces constantly... Otherwise, as long as the parts I want to buy are compatible with the Shuey Slide Custom, then I'm happy. I think for now I'll run it without a comp, just to simplify the whole thing a little more. At least until after I get the slide and see how it looks.

Nice thing is, all the parts I'm buying are going into the slide... so if the slide doesn't work on my current frame... I could always just put it onto another one that does fit. In theory, anyway. I want to stick with actual 1911 frames, not hi-capas, since I bought several magazines for it.

There's an actual Shuey Custom compensated slide set available:

http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof..._hicapa_shueys
http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof..._hicapa_shueyb
http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof...hicapa_shuey2t

If you're thinking about doing a comp... do the proper set. Don't mix and match. I mean... you could, but then the way the compensator mates with the slide will just look like an afterthought, as a large seam will become present as the muzzle of standalone slides are beveled. Matched slide sets with compensators will have a flat cut to it to provide a seamless transition from the slide to the compensator and looks a hell of a lot cleaner.

Although, if you're looking to maintain the use of iron sights, then you don't really have any option, except to do the separate purchase of slide/comp/comp-barrel, because these compensated slide sets don't have a dovetail cutouts to accommodate front or rear iron sights. They're designed to be used with electronic dot sights, and the rear dovetail is replaced with a custom cut for a cocking handle.

Also, you don't really have much choice in terms of iron sight options... you can only get Hi-Capa 5.1 rear sights or..... Hi-Capa 5.1 rear sights. :P Nothing else is compatible. However, in that category, there are various aftermarket fixed "wedge" combat sights as well as adjustable sights. Some with fiber optics, some are just standard iron blades. I have a pile of options in hand.

You'll also need to change out to a Hi-Capa style blowback unit, as your original blowback unit won't fit a Hi-Capa slide. This will also mean a required change of your nozzle and floating valve assembly.

You will also likely need to change out to a full length recoil rod setup, which also means requiring a change of your hop up chamber...

Unfortunately, it's not so easy as just a simple slide swap with your particular platform.

It's a bit of work, but not impossible to do a conversion to put a Hi-Capa slide on a 1911 frame:

http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof...5773/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsof...5774/large.jpg

Yeah I knew about the sights, just looking to see if there was a type that I liked better than the others lol. A compensator removes the front sight though? That'd make it a little difficult to precision aim. This is for battle, so I'd like to keep the front sight... I'l forego the comp. Just the basic slide then. So far, I've got a blow back unit (it's the Nineball Feather Weight one) and slide picked out, rubber, front sight and rear sight (why are the rear ones so much more expensive?! The front post is 10$ the rear is 65$? wtf!) Will I still need the recoil rod if I don't use the comp?

What I'm still looking for I guess is a hop up chamber, so I also need a compatible nozzle, right? I'm really not sure since this is my first pistol build -_- hopefully last lol it's already costing me a fortune XD

About you're picture there... I thought Hi-capa slides and 1911 slides were similar enough to go between :( If not I'll be putting a lot of work into this without knowing if it'll even function.

MOST of the complete slide sets will remove the front sight, as again, these slide sets are generally used with electronic dots. That's not to say there AREN'T slide sets available without a front sight. Some have the dovetail for a front sight, such as the Limcat series, or might have an integrated front sight machined directly on the compensator, such as the Infinity Heroes slide set.

Otherwise, if you want a different style, then like I mentioned, you'll have to get a regular slide (like the Shuey Custom you mentioned), plus a separate purchase of a comp-ready outer barrel, plus a compensator. You'd just have to deal with the beveled seam where the slide's muzzle meets the comp.

Regarding the Nine Ball Featherweight blowback unit, I hope you got the Hi-Capa one and NOT the MEU one.

Hi-Capa 5.1 rear sights are expensive because of the number of parts involved in it. Off the top of my head, it's made up of 8 parts, whereas your typical tactical wedge sight is made up of only 2.

For skirmish/combat/duty use, tactical wedges are generally preferred, because the limited number of parts means higher durability. The less moving parts, the less chance of something breaking or going wrong. Also, the wedge shape offers less points to catch on gear. Obviously, you pay for this by having the inability to adjust for a point of aim - point of impact. You have to train with your pistol's combat sights to find out where it's point of impact is relative to the sight.

What rear sight are you getting for $65? I have OEM Marui rear sights in stock for cheaper - $49. ILLusion Kinetics steel adjustable rear sights for $76. The steel is more durable, and machined to greater precision fit. Some aftermarket rear sights do not come with all of the parts you need (usually the springs). The ILLusion Kinetics one comes complete.

The requirement for a full length recoil rod is for a number of reasons, and is completely unrelated to the comp. I'll break it down: The Shuey slide does not have a barrel bushing lug. Thus, you'll need to upgrade to a bull barrel. Since you'll be ditching the straight barrel, you can no longer use the barrel bushing, and as a result, having the spring plug you currently have is unnecessary, as there is no barrel bushing to lock to it.

In addition to that, the Hi-Capa 5.1 has a *slightly* shorter slide length than the 1911 series, so your spring plug will stick out slightly. Keep in mind, this information is taken from Marui spec 1911 vs Hi-Capa 5.1. I don't know how closely the Army 1911 replicated the Marui 1911 dimensions. But if they did, that means your spring plug will stick out the muzzle by another 0.1". It'll look wack, but that's probably just a cosmetic annoyance. If you're okay with that, then you can stick with your plugged spring guide setup. With *some* comps (not all), it does require a flush-fit recoil rod bushing, and in that case, you can't use your spring plug at all, lest you risk damaging something during the recoil. You'll have to check the lengths to confirm.

Otherwise, the Shuey Custom slide comes with a matching recoil rod bushing, which is meant for use with a full length recoil rod. It's open at the front. If you don't get a full length recoil rod, it will become an entry point for dirt. It's not ideal for a combat/skirmish pistol... but the Shuey slide has huge gaping holes at the top of it anyways, so I suppose that point is moot.

Hop Up chambers I have in stock. OEM, ILLusion Kinetics, and Nova.

Yeah I'm thinkin' of not going with the comp. It looks weirder every time i look at it lol. The rear sight was an adjustible one from ehobby. I'm just browsing for parts right now, seeing whats where for how much and give myself a general total for what i'm about to put into the pistol so I can prepare for the funds. Haven't actually BOUGHT anything yet, I just meant I sourced it for a reasonable price lol. But looking at it, it says m1911/meu... fuck, well good call cuz I wouldn't have known. Hmm... If i had time, money, and a car, i'd drive up to see you in person. that or buy a whole new 1911 tm... I kind of liked the adjustible sights, but a blade side would be cheaper... at the same time, it'd be easier to have the adjustible cuz i can get them with the fiber optic sticks (tired, cant remember what they're called...) and that'd be better than trying to eye up through the tiny slit in the blade...