WE MP5A2 Apache GBB
 

ohaithar,

Since nobody posted this, here's some interesting photos. Hopefully it's more affordable then the VFC one.

Very pumped. The mp5k's been listed on ehobby at around $300 so it should be somewhere around the price of WE AR's in canadian shops.
Hopefully it's got decent gas capacity and recoil! The vfc was pretty crap in that department as well as internally being made out of expensive crumbly cheese.
The mag looks a little weird, dude says it's fatter than normal and you can see the beeb channel which is not great but i'm still excited for more details and hopefully an a5 and sd6.

The cooldown on the mags looked pretty bad in videos.

yea they made the bolt way too heavy, the ROF is super slow too

I'm a full on WEtard.. I can't see any way I can avoid buying one of these

Corrected for accuracy of statement ;)

If it's anywhere near as fun to shoot as the AKs, I am super willing to compromise.

Technically an A4, but who cares. More GBBRs. Drool.

Definitely want one of these!!!

As for the ROF, until I see more info on that, I'm not at all bothered. Likely won't be anyway as I use semi about 99% of the time.

Even on that, are you comparing it's ROF to airsoft guns, or it's RS counterpart?

WE is always affordable in price but always bad in quality

That's the way it is, you get what you pay for lol

Its better than VFC... pricy and crappy.

I like the looks of this thing.

Actually wrong, VFC's fit and finish is much better than WE.
I haven't had any major issues with the VFC. got the revised parts and everything has been grovey since.

Wait until u get this WE MP5 and let's bring my vfc MP5

Do a side by side comparison for both and fire copy rounds then u will understand why WE is crappy

Take it easy! As of a mp5 hardcore fans for gbb airsoft collector like me, what ever making in the market, I still would like to get one. they all have their own value and good for different choices from different players. Just in a different point of view and needed. Really looking forward to compare the VFC and WE both MP5K if I'm luck to get them!

Doesn't look that bad on this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtScOeNcq0I
Some problems with full auto, but cooldown isn't what I'd call terrible.
Check the English subtitles for his impressions.

I don't think you can tell in the video. Magazine for mp5 is way to long and narrow. Not like m4 has the larger area work like a heat sink to minimize cool down effect. The only way you can find out is , keep shooting it empty and reload again, and again, then you should able to find out. Even m4 mag, if you keep doing it, it will get jam or stuck by the cool down effect. Correct me if I'm wrong!

Cool down is a constant companion for GBB .. just something to be expected to one degree or another.. can't escape thermodynamics.

the video posted above shows what looks like a pretty well put together item.

impressed that the 3 round burst feature seems to be more than paint on the receiver.

Of course shooting at sub 300 FPS this unit won't fly for legal import. But a silencer with an extended barrel should fix that.

the full size one could be quite strong and luckily we's good at accomodating canadian limits with those long barrels and flute valves. colour me excited, need to make up for that helpless feeling of failure i still have lingering from my vfc.

The thing is with WE (and I am a WE fan) they release guns like this with substandard internals so they WILL fail, they then have RA-Tech make heavily overpriced upgraded internals because I swear WE and RA-tech are something to do with each other.
By comparison the VFC MP5k is really not much more expensive than the WE MP5k, but the kicker is that the VFC has very inexpensive upgrade parts on the market.
My VFC MP5k has just about every upgrade on the market, and it cost me probably $150 total, and that includes upgrades I've removed and replaced due to incompatibility issues.

I like others will keep my money safe in my pocket and stick with my totally flawless VFCs

And the money I save will go on the beauty that is the VFC MP7 :D

Though I didn't have a good experience from my VFC MP5A2(early generation) and I own a lot of WE products, I do agree the money i spent for mod and fix my WE M4, was way much more than the VFC MP5. Even the time too! Believe it or not?

From what I have heard, that RA-Tech and WE are partners in business. So that is why RA-TECH is able to get parts and guns from WE well before it is even released on to the public so RA-TECH can clone the parts.

The WE mag is ugly, the bb's show and there are the two pins bare exposed.
The VFC mag has a outer shell that sits on top of the mag internals, thus making it more real just like the real steel.

Can't compare a M4 to a MP5, different kind of gun. The MP5 trigger group is much more complicated than the M4, and the bolt is more complex also.

I wantttttt the vfc mp5k, but no one can get it in canada........

And now VFC announce a 3 round burst trigger group for their MP5s ;)


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i believe trigger airsoft had it a whiles back. But they're out of stock now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP94TNYauaQ

Another fail product from WE. God damn it shoots slow.

Seems like the cool down effect freezing the contact between nozzle and mag, most likely?? Or the same problem as my WE m4, trigger group failed, had to replace by Ratech. They got my money and my time spent to figure it out what the problems was!!

What? Seriously?

Checked trigger airsoft, just the MP5A2, are u sure they sell the MP5k?

Sorry my bad. I recalled incorrectly.

??? how is that a fail? theyre different guns, with different recievers....

Forget em Noob,
people always hatin on our wetardedness I pray to the Koran I can get one.

;)

Umm...from what James (WE vid presenter) had said, WE has no affilation with RA-Tech.
RA-Tech or Red Alert Technology is a small Taiwanese company that specialize in making parts for airsoft. They've been focusing of GBB lately, but they started as an AEG aftermarket parts manufacture

In regards to your statement on getting it out early. Zparts already has beaten RA-Tech in releasing MSK trigger parts.
I'm unsure what Johnny Hsu will react to these statement. However, given that the statement that they are affiliated are often tagged with connotation I don't think its positive.


WE has three mags
'15 rounder' magazine with exposed front end. It's called "short"
'30 rounder' that holds 45 bb with exposed front end. It's called "standard"
http://www.crw-airsoft.com/ekmps/sho...bb--9312-p.jpg
'30 rounder' that holds 30 bb with and encased frontend. It's called "Classic"
http://www.crw-airsoft.com/ekmps/sho...bb--9395-p.jpg

The paint on VFC mag wears out quickly based on AATV review

[QUOTE=kullwarrior;1863105]
WE has three mags
'15 rounder' magazine with exposed front end. It's called "short"
'30 rounder' that holds 45 bb with exposed front end. It's called "standard"
http://www.crw-airsoft.com/ekmps/sho...bb--9312-p.jpg
'30 rounder' that holds 30 bb with and encased frontend. It's called "Classic"
http://www.crw-airsoft.com/ekmps/sho...bb--9395-p.jpg
/QUOTE]

Absolutely I'll take the classic mag when I'll get this mp5. Thanks for this info.

Bam.

RA-Tech Video


RA-TECH apache a2 recoil test - YouTube

Being pretty much chairsofting spectacular now, I kept being drawn to the new MP5s, since its one of the kind of airsoft stuff I've yet to own(AEG, GBB or otherwise). WE being new and I am forever skeptical of the brand, they do seem to be decent for this one, considering VFC doesn't exactly have the most sterling of rep. But WE in most cases have price advantage, this time the price really isn't that different(I think <$40 in most HK shops). Really want to pick up a MP5K, but not sure which way I would go....

It's unfortunate that the lowers and uppers can't be switched between he MP5 and MP5K, but.. I might grab me an A2.

A2 inbound
 

anyone else have an apache yet?

mine should arrive next week.

my first airsoft gun was a tm mp5a5 bought from apec in 1996 I loved it. I can't wait to get my hands on a gas version.

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Nope I disagree, I m sure u won't pick up an A2 hahaha

hmmm
 

interesting statement Cooked, do explain?

It's here, and it's awesome. I told my wife there's no need to come home tonight.

Nice action, great accuracy. I haven't looked ed inside yet but I love it.

My first AEG in 1997 was a tm mp5a2 but now to have a gas version is incredible.

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CongratS!

Video please :D

Are any vendors in Ontario selling this weapon?

Nice, did you get it from Eeryore in Quebec, right?

damn - I MUST have this!!

Tokyo MOdel Company they sell USD$ 340 only.
http://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/shop/images/R7417.jpg

Does anyone happen to have a link to purchase the full version? I can't seem to find one