Magpul PTS PDR AEG
 

So this was just posted on Magpul PTS' facebook page.
Caption: "Watch Out! It's coming soon..."
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...90022985_n.jpg

Notable features:
* Bullpup design - mechbox is apparently a variant of the v2 instead of the version 6 and sits at the rear of the AEG (should be relatively straightforward to work on; Parts availability should also be more abundant)
* Takes M4 mags
* Quick-disasembly and quick-change spring gearbox
* Functional bolt release and remote mag release

Yes I'm aware that it was announced at ShotShow2012 with a then-release timeframe of July.
Methinks this should hit store shelves around September.

Thoughts?

Looks pretty damn ugly but it's a Magpul so folks will buy it in droves.

I've been waiting for this. Sexy!

No gas, no interest.

V2 with quick change? Um... Maybe more along the lines of the Masada gearbox?
No one likes the v2 stop using it damnit

Oops my bad. Mechbox looks to be proprietary.

AATV @ Shot Show 2012: Magpul PDR AEG - YouTube

Start at 3:05.
Something to note is the routing of the BBs. Note that the mag sits right BELOW the mechbox. I'm assuming they've come up with some sort of BB channel similar to the ASG ASW338LM. Odd.

Well hopefully they were smart enough to match components to the masada, other wise yet another new mchbox. sigh

it is indeed a new gearbox .. by none other than Ares..(sigh) when they say V2, they mean the upper half of the gearbox, just like the ACR. also expect that retarded switch from Ares.

@Drake, why do you think i want to pick one up? ;)
once i get mine, im selling the gearbox.. i know it's going to be something people are going to want/need.

once its filthy guts are all stripped out, im gona try and design a gas system for it. you have to admit if this thing came as a GBBR, it would be damn sexy. i would rather have a gas PDR over the MP7.

is this thing real or just fantasy ( I mean is there a real steel version )

I believe the RS project is shelved at the moment

Magpul did design a real steel version of the PDR to sell to the US Army but the military wasn't interested in a compact PDW weapon. As a result Magpul PTS inherited the concept and is now turning it out as an airsoft toy.

I suspect that the PDR will be a "love / hate" AEG much like the P90. To me the PDR has the benefits of a compact form factor like a P90 but can use standard M4 mags which is a huge advantage. It is interesting to note in the early reviews that the inner barrel of the PDR is about as long as a typical airsoft M4 inner barrel.

the only love/hate i can see happening with the PDR will be due to its internals.
it's a real shame MAGPUL stopped the development.. would make a nice home defense weapon (for countries that allow that). would be great as a backup secondary on hunting trips. getting charged by a moose would suck if all you have is a bolt action. and if it could be chambered for 6.8mm grendel (pants now have cream filling).

Shame, that with an 18.5 inch barrel would be non restricted in Canada ( presuming a semi only receiver).. I expect 18.5 would only poke out another 3 inches or so.

so it's a fantasy gun for now

quite honestly I would probably buy one, I generally like uncommon, modern, unique looking guns.

handled this at the shot show was great runs on m4 mags and is a bullpup. full length barrel like the aug as it is a bull pup.

My girlfriend wants one...

Around 2 years I'm waiting this baby, I don't know who believe, Magpul told many times this AEG will came out soon
Snifffff

If you want more info for the gearbox,
http://youtu.be/nQf8FczPVBw ( around 3:30 min )
Looks like a V2 modified like what you have in a FN2000 ( remember me my old JLS.... )
Price : around 400 $ us.

I'd buy one mainly because it's something unique, yet still accepts common accessories and magazines. My only gripe is that foregrip, a simple rail or even the mounting system from the MOE handguard would make it much more versitile, especially when some users would prefer an AFG or MVG. A threaded outer barrel wouldn't be a bad idea, either.

well i think that they might be making two versions. this version is the PDR-C (compact) and they have another witch is just PDR. the non -C version has a longer pistol grip and a railed fore grip.

as for a threaded barrel, nothing a machine shop couldn't do. though it would be nice if it came already threaded.. a silencer on the front of the little demon would be bad ass.

I would expect that there will be a recessed threaded barrel in there. The """"real"""" PDR prototypes use something similar to a Levang Linear Compensator for increasing control, and the airsoft version looks to have a similar looking device on the muzzle. I'm confident either a barrel extension then suppressor, or a specific diameter suppressor could be easily mounted to the airsoft version.

i have been waiting impatiently since it was first announced.

I want it, and I want it NOW!

Gimmie gimmie gimmie!!!

an update from their Facebook page. :(

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...76332535751430

"PDR Announcement

We regret to announce that due to the internal adjustment for Personal Defense Rifle (PDR), the product launch of PDR will be postponed.

The Magpul PDR is a conceptual prototype consisting with a sophisticated mechanism that involves a unique and delicate dimension and own gear box design. In order to ensure the better performance for PDR, this requires a precise and intricate testing including design revision, engineering amendment as well as fine-tuning mechanism.

We would like to cautiously finalize all the matter for PDR before an official product launch. We greatly appreciate for your time and patience regarding to the matter of PDR. As a company that prides itself on loyal customer service, we offer sincere apologies and hope that this brief delay will provide the products with better quality.

We promise to keep you updated the status of PDR through the announcement on facebook."

_____

Well I guess this is good news in a way. They aren't acting irresponsible and shipping out a product that isn't ready yet. (Cough* like almost every other manufacturer cough*).

This makes me want it more not because now i know it's going to be even better :) I'm just very impatient lol

Just died a little.

a little yes but I'd rather have them release a rockin out of the box gun that works perfect then release a product before its ready especially since the gearbox will be proprietary

Darth Vader NO! - YouTube


damn it all to hell!.. i care not for it's Ares made crapbox, just give me the damn shell so i can start designing the gas internals already!

Not exactly sexy, but I want one because it's simplistic, and looks really practical...

me sad:

PDR Announcement

We regret to announce that due to the internal adjustment for Personal Defense Rifle (PDR), the product launch of PDR will be postponed.

The Magpul PDR is a conceptual prototype consisting with a sophisticated mechanism that involves a unique and delicate dimension and own gear box design. In order to ensure the better performance for PDR, this requires a precise and intricat
e testing including design revision, engineering amendment as well as fine-tuning mechanism.

We would like to cautiously finalize all the matter for PDR before an official product launch. We greatly appreciate for your time and patience regarding to the matter of PDR. As a company that prides itself on loyal customer service, we offer sincere apologies and hope that this brief delay will provide the products with better quality.

We promise to keep you updated the status of PDR through the announcement on facebook.
*off the PTS Magpul Facebook page*

Really....? I JUST posted this here only a few hours ago....

people dont read well

That wouldn't have happened if they'd made it a GBBR like they should have.

http://i.imgur.com/ah8RV.gif

I read your post Kyle ;)

So I guess we will see this released in a few years

Kinda wish they got WE to do it.
could have used their L85 internals

Magpul couldn't get the real gun to work, How would a chinese company be able to do it?

In regards to the AEG version of this, id hate to see what the hopup unit will look like, look at how far below the barrel the mag is sitting.

I'd buy that.


It seems to have a proprietary 'mid-size' mag stock, shorter than a 30-rounder, longer than a VN.

If a VN could fit in this beast, It would look beautiful. :D

its supposed to be able to take any m4 mag

I know, but the Magwell looked unnaturally deep.

Might just be my weird brain, though.

Not sure if it is posted elsewhere (didn't show up in search).

It lives.
Product Briefing Magpul PTS PDR AEG Sneak Peek Video - YouTube

fucking awesome. I am definately getting one. Thanks for posting :)

So it's a magpulized P90 with proprietary parts and made by Ares. Not interested. And it's fugly.

Just what I've been waiting for. I personally love the P90, but heard of nearly infinite feeding problems. This thing is going to be a CQB demon...

Does Magpul PTS only use Ares as their OEM?

Only echo1/ks p90s suck.. tm and ca are fine as are the ka and seems like g&g... highcaps are shit but nobody uses them

yep.. real shame
still going to get one, gut it and develop GBBR internals for it.

Is it just me or does the rof in unknown variable's link sound pathetic, and doesn't the gearbox sound like its pulling a spring intended for a cars suspension...

they are firing prototypes and dry firing

Aghh ok Im amazed a cqb weapon on a Lipo that size is so slow prototype or not though

I'm kinda amazed they wouldn't properly shim a show/display gun so it doesn't sound like a wailing cat.

considering the gearbox is made by Ares, I am amazed it didn't self destruct.

i'm hoping the internals wont be too proprietary

This... Is precisely what I'm talking about... I'm beyond a noob; I've never gamed once... And it sounds like It's gearbox is under a retarded amount if stress and dieing a slow painful death... How is a company using said video for marketing :s

Sounds like the first thing many buyers will be doing is....

Sending it off to a gun doc or shimming it themselves. Because it sounds like the other option is to let it die.....

humm.. it sounds fine in this video.. so i guess the mic on that other video just pick up more high pitch sounds.
so these will be available in January.
Magpul PTS PDR AEG Quick Preview - RWTV - YouTube

wish i could understand what they are saying in this video.
Magpul PTS PDR-C Hong Kong 1st review - YouTube

looks like they are actually out for delivery to Japan for the first batch. 2nd batch is in QC right now and we should start to see this come to our retailers in February:D About fucking time....

Airsoft GI - Magpul PDR SMG AEG Release Update - YouTube

Magpul PTS update on the PDR Release - YouTube

MAGPUL PDR 試射　2013 - YouTube

Where is the PTS PDR? - YouTube

I would rather see the RM4 finally show up, or even the ATP auto.

I don't think I am in the market for this one but I am looking forward to a review and tear down of it.

Oh i definately want the RM4 as well... but I have been waiting for the PDR for far too long lol

I could possibly be stocking the PDR in the near future.

Shut up and take my money

how near?

Hum wrong thread I think...

oops... my bad. I deleted it haha

Looks like you will be getting more of my money then hahah

only if it comes with a screw driver and a garbage bag in the box with it, so i can rip out that shit gearbox and throw it out. :rolleyes:

shit... i'll take that gearbox off your hands then :D

Quote from the Jan 31st Popular Airsoft article about the PDR:

"Since PDR-C is amazingly unique and popular, there is limited quantity of PDR-C which is only available in Hong Kong, Japan, Philippines, England and Canada at the moment. We proudly announce that PTS PDR is coming soon."

This is the full article.

I wonder which Canadian airsoft retailers will stock the PDR!

Shit I hope my dad doesnt buy one. It will be awkward having the same cqb guns

I know one. that has a standing order for a few

I'm probably going to review it but I'm also getting my APS UAR next week, people may call my a sinner (before I make them remember they're called "Magpul whores"), but I'm actually wondering how the two may behave.
Personally the UAR may not have forward ejection, something I'm not a fan of because that's yet another place for cases to get stuck in on guns with that (PDR-C, FN2000, etc), but having four rails and the upper one slightly raised (because I hate having to buy AND use raisers) may give it an edge.

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:) today
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/magpul-pt....html?___SID=U

How bout some Out of production photos for you all? My brother Noveske picked one up right after work the day it was released so HERE YOU GO :D

Size comparison with the KWA KRISS ITS SHORTER :O
http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...39215548_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...51913915_n.jpg

numnumnumnumnumnum.

can't buy it this year though. :(

Slick. Wonder if they will ship them to canada.

I hope Canadian retailers will sell it at the same price. That would be smart.

I will be around 400/450 $ + shipping here I think. If retailers going too high, they will lose people due to the 12-005 memo.

Give some feedback from the GB, and if you can just send some picture, I will be really happy. That's really why I'm afraid to get one. They pass over 2 year to fix the Gearbox.... I don t know what ares made. mmm mmm


Semi answer found in review part hehe

Wait a second... If this never made it to real steel. It can't be a replica... Sooooo in theory would that not mean fps doesn't matter?

I realize theory and cbsa reality are not the same...

yes in theory... but it takes an M4 mags.. so you can see whats gonna happen.

close... speaking to a retailer currently and he hopes to be under the 400$ mark.

close to it yes.

Damn I want one of these, just wondering if I should import a preorder from ehobby or wait for it to come local... Hmmmm...

I hope the importer's consider the fact it's not a replica, should make things cheaper assuming the CBSA arn't a buncha ass-hats on that day.

retailers still have obey a M.A.P.
but I can say the price wont be bad

Considering the nice prices on some items here in country, maybe it will be a good thing to wait.
@ RITZ: M.A.P. ? What is this acronym? thx :)

Minimum advertised price

AKA MSRP

Hopefully we get lot's in. got someone looking for me now.

I saw some pics of the mechbox and I realized that you can get away with any ver 6 gearbox inside the pdr. Might not be an exact fit, but can be close enough

Airsoft GI - MAGPUL PTS PDR AEG Internal Look with Frank and Daniel - YouTube

MAGPUL PTS PDR-C AEG by eHobby Asia - YouTube

Can this be confirmed? Interesting

Im thinking of preordering one just for that reason, anybody have a spare p90 mechbox i can borrow for this experiment

I highly doubt a v6 gear box would fit. Making a comparison is one thing, but until it is looked at properly with measuring equipment to check what lines up and what doesn't, it's all speculation.

You will have to make a feed tube also, since the original one is made in the gearbox

The MRSP(As per PTS Steel Shop Rep) in HKD is $2500HKD.

Thats a little over $300 Canadian.