C7-C8
 

do they make a C7 or C8 for airsoft? i'v been looking, but cant find anything other then a c7 mag

Yup, sorta.. Toronto airsoft has one from G&P

It takes alot of time and sourcing of parts
I built mine based on a JG M16, the only original part left is the base plate for the motor
- Used a C8 with Canadian markings as the base
- Knight Arms Butt full stock
- Tight bore barrel
- Knight Arms heavy outer barrel
- Real steel forestock with heat shield and gas tube
- Real steal front site
- Knight arms (I think) delta ring
- Knights Arms pistol grip
- Real steel Elcan
About 3 years of work and 3 gun docs before I got it to where I wanted it
Good luck and let me know if you need any referance photos
Jakster

If you're looking for a C8 I suggest you to buy the one on Toronto Airsoft. The most important part is already on the gun (the body). You only have to change the barrel, the handguard and the stock if you really want a C8.

Those are nice guns. But note that they have the LE trademarks on them and not the CF version. If you're ok with that, then go for it.

Your best bet for authenticity (if you want the CF version) is to build it yourself. There's little in terms of the defining features of the Canadian guns that set them apart in look from the American M-series in these pre-built guns. The receivers with the authentic markings are hard to locate, but pop up in the classified occasionally. You just have to be quick and snatch them up as they tend to disappear quickly.

I have one of each. Both have the receivers, and are "mostly" authentic. A few externals details are off, but nothing major. My C7A2 is as close as it gets. It's basically the same as an M16 only with a proper C7A2 marked Guarder receiver, and TRIAD mount. I have a G&P crane stock on it, which is the variation on the real steel, and my furniture is black rather than green. I also use an ELCAN replica. Other than the colour and stock, it's as authentic as it gets.

My C8A3 is a full custom build. I got a DBoys C8 receiver (not C8A3 unfortunately)as the base. Everything else is custom built. It also sports a G&P crane stock, and has green furniture, TRIAD and real steel slim handguards. The only thing it needs for completion to 100% authenticity is the heavy barrel. I never got around to getting one. I'll switch between an ELCAN and a real steel EOTech 552 on this gun.

The TRIAD mount is a fairly easy find I think One Shot has some.

No they don't. they have a cadex tri rail. RIS is better anyway. Put up a wanted ad for the TRI-AD, they will come out of the woodwork.

There were a few C8 bodies brought in but they got snatched up real quick. My advice is not to build on the WA platform, I have been sitting on all the parts for my build for about 6 months now waiting for a body.

Funny, I had no problems aquiring WA Series Bodies. Custom G&P or Prime ones that I hand picked.

6 months = you arnt even trying.

I have 3 custom builds sitting on my workbench as a matter of fact.
I have a spare lower sitting around here somewhere.

What you need to build it (WA)

Engraved Receiver (Blank receiver with custom engravings is easiest)
C8 Slim Handguards (I ended up using a Lighted Foregrip and flipped my triad backwards)
L11A1 Heavy Barrel (Pro Arms Makes em for WA)
C8 Collapsable Stock (G&P)
Stock Pad (Guarder)
Elcan (I find Trigger Happy makes the best clone, or you can go with a real one)
C8 CoatHanger Charging Handle (I Modified a real one)
Grip (I ended up swapping to a MIAD to hold a few Extra CR123s)
Ambidexterious Mag Catch (G&P)
TRIAD (Real)

That's awesome. I had no problems getting laid last night but has nothing to do with my build. There are no retailers in country selling WA GBBR bodies, end of story.

in technical terms; KJ works m4 carbine GBBR is the C8?

The KJ M4 is an M4A1 that uses thermold mags, it's not a C8

oh, good to know

That is correct, it's pretty much ALL wrong. Besides, we don't use Thermold mags anymore.
Also, Dark Angel, we've been overthis, yours don't count as C7's or C8s, you went too far with the "Artistic" license :P

EDIT: A picture of my baby, Lysiane
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...t2/image-2.jpg

She started life as a WE M4A1. She now consists of:
Real buttstock and buffer tube (Old C8 stock, metal not plastic)
Real Pistol grip
Real handguards
Real front grip and rail
Real Diemaco Back up Iron Sight
Real Triad marked with Diemaco D
Real Elcan with trouble shooting card and cover
Real charging handl;e (Both, the C7 and C7A2 handles)
Real C9 Grip modified for rifle use
Real sling (Easy as shit to get)
CF Armourer's wrench thing.

All I need now is a blank lower

EoTechs (552 or 553, can someone clear that up?) are also another option if you don't want to use an Elcan.

If you plan on engraving trademarks:

*LEAF ICON HERE*
CANADIAN
FORCES
CANADIENNES
C7A2
5.56 mm
XXAA#####

Replace C7A2 with C7, C7A1, C7A2, C8, C8A1, C8A2, C8FTHB, C8FTHBA3 or C8A3 depending on what you're trying to Replicate. The C8FTHBA3 was I believe a bunch of FTHB receivers used for the first batch of C8A3s, but I could be wrong. Updated receivers (For example, a C7 that was rebuilt into the C7A2) will have the new designation engraved into the body next to the original and thus the designation will look "Off Centre"

XX represents the last two digits of year of manufacture, AA is the weapon code, and the # represents a 5 digit ID. I don't remember weapon codes off the top of my head. 88AA01234 would denote a lower receiver made in 1988, AA denotes an original C7 lower receiver, and 01234 is unique to that receiver.

Again, I could be wrong and I probably have made a mistake, but I'm sure someone can clarify.

PS: The TRIAD is a piece of [Bleep]

CANSOFCOM uses EoTech 553.

Regular CF uses EoTech 552 with C8s - some guys acquire them for their C7's and C9's as well.

And there is guys who buy their own ACOG, etc

It is......... and it isn't. It beats having no mounting space. It COULD be better of course, but I've had no issues with them

You are right, it beats having no mounting space. But they could have done so much better with a RIS/RAS.

thanks everyone for the help, i went right by the one on toronto airsoft,

ps crunch if you want to sell your c7 or c8 let me know

THAT is as good as it gets!


You and me both :( Also, getting an AN PAQ 4c will be difficult.

PEQ2 batterybox/model would be easier too find.

PAQ4s are more common, but PEQ2s are also issued in the Army to those in leadership positions(Section Commanders, Platoon Commanders, etc)

If you want the CANSOF look go for a PEQ15.


Gato, your C8 looks great.

Boy C8's have changed since I was in.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...y/HPIM0270.jpg

Those C8s are still used, but mostly for Medics and the like. It's more of a PDW then anything else (it's also CRAZY light compared to anything elsE)

Yeah, that's where I may go "off" a bit, I may be gettign a Peq-15, if I do, I'll just use that. The AN/PAQ-4C are nice for completing a kit but a pain to get and not as versatile as the AN/PEQ-15

Comparing the three, there is a BIG difference. Take a look here
http://www.insighttechgear.com/products-paq4c.htm <- AN/PAQ-4C
http://www.insighttechgear.com/products-peq2a.htm <- AN/PEQ-2A
http://www.insighttechgear.com/products-atpial.htm <- AN/PEQ-15

While I'd like to stay as accurate as possible to a Canadian loadout, I'd like to also go for the most effective and efficient equiptment as it'll be used outside of airsoft as well

Glad to hear you like my rifle :)

For others, listen to Skeletor, he knows what he's talking about. Keep in mind the "role" you're playing, as having certain items may ruin the "impression". But that's also an area you get flexibility in for airsoft.

In Afghanistan(2008 on) I only saw the C8FTHBs and C8A3s in use, and most of the C8s I've seen in Canada were the A3s and FTHBs. Only seen a few of the original C8s in Canada in use by some LdSH pers and in use at schools(ie CFLAWC for Patrol Pathfinder).

I think the PRT might have had some older C8s in Afghanistan though. Foxhound, were the Medics with the original C8s you saw part of the Battle Group as the Medics in the Rifle Coys or the HSS Bison Amb crews?

TF1-10 BG our Medics had them.

Attached to the Rifle Coys, I believe. Though they seemed to rotate through working the UMS and patrols. I'm not 100% how their organization worked. In any case they were in the Platoon Houses/COPs with us.

This should be in the Canadian section oui? no?


Does anyone have an actual drawing of the C8 trades?

I have numerous photos, vector images and other "drawings" of them somewhere on a USB stick, can't guarantee I'll be able to find them

I've been told that depending on who I deal with for engravings, I should be prepared to buy a few bodies.

Best picture I can find:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Kev/newgun.jpg

That one is good but looking for RS drawing to compare.

That is a real steel receiver... or were you referring to something else?

A drawing. That's better than what I have though.

That is pretty awesome, .