Originally Posted by m102404 (Post 1040423)

LOL...Deep, if the fact of the thing being clear or not made or broke things, I'd keep a case of black spray paint in my gear bag and hand it out for free at games. Show up early and I'd spray away the clear for you...

But it's not. It's the nut behind the butt. It's how the individual considers what needs to be done, decides how to do it and their mentality of what they're going to do. Everyone will follow direction...usually they'll just bump along with whatever the group is doing, good or bad. Establish the direction...and they'll follow that (which I've seen you do with plenty of guys).

If a new guy starts out and sees that people are organized, taking things in a fun but focused approach, "bonding" (or whatever you hippies are talking about..jk :D), calling hits, etc... then they'll do that if it's in them to do that.

If a new guy is an a--hat and shows up to events like the above, they'll very quickly figure out (or be told outright) that this sport isn't for them. They'll either find the off-grid sh*t or they'll pack it in. But if they find mainstream groups/games that tolerate a--hatery, then they'll end up there.

Originally Posted by m102404 (Post 1040418)

#1. Entry price point and whether the see-through-ness/quality of the gun is NOT the issue.

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1040424)

I think we should raise the bar.

We require as a community 18+ and AV status to buy guns from this community .. We should also require a AS indoctrination before people can participate actively in force on force engagements.

They do this in other places, the Western New york AS comminity is one example.

then at least everyone starts off on the same page and at the same level and no one can claim ignorance for breaches or safety or protocol.

Originally Posted by Able1 (Post 1040434)

I disagree Janus got a bud at defcon that showed 4 other players that its not the gun but the player, he was using a crosman AKU and that thing was dropped that night twice yet, he scored some headshots and a bag a kills, New weapon doesn't necessarily noob player.

Originally Posted by Able1 (Post 1040434)

I disagree Janus got a bud at defcon that showed 4 other players that its not the gun but the player, he was using a crosman AKU and that thing was dropped that night twice yet, he scored some headshots and a bag a kills, New weapon doesn't necessarily noob player.

Originally Posted by Able1 (Post 1040434)

I disagree Janus got a bud at defcon that showed 4 other players that its not the gun but the player, he was using a crosman AKU and that thing was dropped that night twice yet, he scored some headshots and a bag a kills, New weapon doesn't necessarily noob player.

Originally Posted by Able1 (Post 1040452)

Its not a badge, But a lot of times that is the only thing we can hit, headshots happen but what im meant to say is the gun has almost nothing to do with the player. Don't we root out all the unsafe players anyhow, like those who dry fire and bullshit, There cant be that many of em to bum teh pro players out.